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Old 12-29-2007, 11:05 PM   #11
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I worked in Veterinary for many years, and it is not a painless procedure. It can be done two different ways, but I am against either. One way is to use nail clippers and cut down at the bone. Sounds pleasant, huh? The other way is to take a scapel and saw cut at the bone. Sounds even more pleasant, eh?

I believe it is a barbaric and cruel procedure, and I know many Veterinarians that agree with me, and will not even perform the procedure at all. I despised assisting in the surgery. I was glad when I worked for a Vet that refused to do it.

Not one of our cats are declawed, and they scratch their many scratching posts, not our furniture. They know better because I trained my cats. Also, a declawed cat can NEVER go outside ever again. If they do get outside, they will have no way to defend themselves. Kittens do outgrow the "attack everything" stage. However, don't play with him aggressively, especially with your hands. Then he will think it's ok.

Please don't do it. How would you like it if someone ripped all your fingernails off?
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Old 12-30-2007, 05:09 AM   #12
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aiight yall thanks for all the feedback. ive never liked doing that to them. im sure hell eventuall stop using his claws so much once he can just jump onto high things right? all of your first hand opinions were just wat i needed. now lets hope he learns soon. cats are so funny yo, well domesticated animals in general. i dont want to get into details about experiments using for example a wolf, and a domesticated wolf. long story short when given the task to recieve a treat, both subjects could not get it that time. the wolf just kept trying on his own, i found it fascinating how again and again pet after pet

would do the same thing all my dogs do when they need help. they usually sit look at you and move
and direct their paws/faces towards the human for help. some of u prolly know about this too, but im stoned and i feel like talking about this part of this great life. anyways as i was saying, after all the hundreds of years of breeding and creating breeds with specific qualities. so to move on since im wasting my high..all that specialty breeding weve done has actually evolved the mind of the common house pet. (i speak fact here) ............. sorry i just looked away for a second and drifted into cognition (yall feel me 8-) so as i was saying all the breeds we have were made that way for a reason, from long snouts for hunting dogs, to dogs with greater hearing, or long hair, w/e homies i could go on forever i just hope i made that point clear for the children of the earth.


so yea back to my cat, hell eventually stop, cuz he already knows when hes done something wrong, its so funny. i hope this cat is highly intelligent. the smartest dog ive ever had was a pure bred female boxer. she was so fucking smart, sometimes if i was really high trippin, shed really start to get to me lol. great times. i know boxers are chracterized as very expressive intelligent etc. my dog was like really smart. boxers are GREAT pets and i highly recommend that specific breed to anyone looking to get a dog anytime soon. but get the runt of the litter like we did. turned out to be better, we had her inside.

plus ive noticed that house animals are always smarter...must be that civilization getting to them lolol.

but i love civilization, ive had times where i wish it could be natural the way its suppose to be..but we to intelligent to do that and our society would crumble on all levels... if u disagree with me, please debate! but dont get it twisted. i too like every guy fantasizes about living in a tropical jungle amongst females, everyone nude, enjoying nature..lol wtf am i doing talking so much shit.w/e hope SOMEONE enjoyed this.
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We De-Clawed the frount paws and left the back. It was necessary to save our couch and chairs.
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I also would not declaw a cat, I have only declawed one, and yes, he was in pain. He was in so much pain for several days.

Try just clipping the very tip of the claws with a pair of nail cutters, this way, they still have their claws and they can still use then, but the very sharp tips are gone. I have and still do this to my cats that try to tear things up. Of course they will get sharp again, so it is a weekly grooming thing if it what you choose to do.

I have used this option in lieu of getting them declawed. It works...my vet suggested it
If I understand it correctly, even that could impede the development of your pets. It`s not just a 'survival tool'- clawing things develops muscle and I read somewhere that, in their early years, it can determine bone density and skeletal development.

It is essential to a cat`s well-being (especially when they`re younger) that they can dig into things and claw at them. ...Feel free to verify those statements for me- I`m too lazy at this point.

Oh, and in response to the OP- just suck it up!

The defining mark of any cat-owner is a forearm covered in scratches. If a Spartan child back in ancient Greece can stand there while a fox eats through his stomach you sure as hell should be able to deal with some minor scratches from a cat!
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If I understand it correctly, even that could impede the development of your pets. It`s not just a 'survival tool'- clawing things develops muscle and I read somewhere that, in their early years, it can determine bone density and skeletal development.

It is essential to a cat`s well-being (especially when they`re younger) that they can dig into things and claw at them. ...Feel free to verify those statements for me- I`m too lazy at this point.

Oh, and in response to the OP- just suck it up!

The defining mark of any cat-owner is a forearm covered in scratches. If a Spartan child back in ancient Greece can stand there while a fox eats through his stomach you sure as hell should be able to deal with some minor scratches from a cat!
All you are doing is clipping the very sharp tips off the end. they will still claw and scratch and dig their claws into things...which is why you have to clip them on a weekly or bi-weekly schedule because they tips come back. According to my vet, it doesn't impede any development at all. I still provide scratching posts and scratching boards for the cats.
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Old 01-01-2008, 03:28 PM   #16
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i would never declaw a cat, one of our cats is declawed from before we got him and it totally sucks, mainly because he cant defend himself from our other cats who have claws. one really good solution though is to get claw caps, the super glue over the claws and stay there for a few months, until they shed the outer layer of their claws. it's a little tricky to put on but doesn't take long, and they work great. its so funny, the cats are so confused when they are on, and its great cause they will hit you thinking it'll cut you but nothing happens. i highly recommend them, and they are nice and cheap.

Alternatives to Declawing, Nail Caps for Cats
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3 cats- days from the gas chamber- Take them home and declawed (front only) or leave and let be destroyed?

they are home without claws -- well actually it was 4 cats, but one of them ate that cat food with the chinese gluten/melamie stuff in it and she done died.

All three are awesome mousers indiscriminately killing mousies, birdies, chipmonks and whatever small critter they can catch. Heh, I put my xmas tree outside and put burdseed/suet blocks on it. Friend says-- Bird feeder? Me: No, cat feeder-- heh

Hey, want to see their house?
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Is that a built in the wall house?

Edit: Okay I just looked again and it sure appears to be a built in the wall house. I gotta say that's a pretty cool idea. I would have never thought about it though. You've got some spoiled furbabies...which is awesome!!
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Yeah, on the other side of that wall is an area under a stairway where the litter is. Made the entrance with some scrap laying around-- Don't know where they got the Christmas tree.

Edit: I don't deny that there is pain associated with declawing. (at least during recovery-- ours were done under full anesthesia and the process itself is not painful. The pain is transient though and IMO not in the cruelty catagory, especially if the alternative is the destruction of the animal. We are good with opening our home and family to an animal in need, but cannot abide by the destruction of our furniture in doing so-- I have had many cats over the years and have paid close attention to them, provided sctatching posts, and worked diligently on training, still, with front claws intact, shredded furniture is inevitable. And I have a female with no front claws that can kick the ass of and chase off any Toms, dogs or strange females, whether they have claws or not. My cats all climb trees just fine as well.

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