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I'm using Windows ME now, which is terrible and I hate. However I am to cheap and lazy to upgrade.

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PsYcHoLoGiCaL

I just found out about this new OS in development called LindowsOS This OS is striving to achieve somthing that hasnt been done before. Which is to create an OS that allows you to run both windows and linux applications on the same OS. If they are able to do what they say they can then this could put a huge dent in Microsofts sales as I know id be switching over as long as it still has alot of linux elements, and can run 98% of all windows apps. However this OS isnt striving for linux server elements because a standard linux distro would be better anyways however more for a desktop enviroment but im assuming it will have alot of the linux features. http://lindowsOS.com for more info

On another note, for everyone that likes KDE or GNOME linux interfaces I would also like to point out this newer Interface called black box the eye candy is remarkable, it has a bunch of good features you cant find on KDE or GNOME, and its much faster than either of the other choices. more info @ http://blackbox.alug.org/ also check out some differnt themes @ http://bb.themes.org check out that 3rd theme on the list its damn tight.

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Deep_Freeze

1. Anything you can do in windows, I can do in Linux, Better.
2. I get better FPS in quake3 in linux than in windows.
3. I get better DVD playing performance in linux than in windows.
4. I crash less, actually I crash NEVER.
5. My USB mouse w/ lotz of buttonz works in linux.
6. I never have to Defragment my harddrive.
7. My boot up is like 1/3 as long as a win2k boot up.
8. Linux networking runs circles around windows networking.
9. The GIMP ****ing runs circles around PhotoShop.
10. You can **** w/ the source code of anything you want.
11. the compilers are like 100000000000000000000000000000 times better than the ones in windows/dos.
12. I don't have to reboot unless I am recompiling my kernel.
13. I can legally down load it for free off of the internet.
14. IT ISN'T A MICROSOFT PRODUCT.

The Stoned Philosopher

I dont really know since all the OS's that i meddled with where winblows and mac (mac is waaay better than winblows,the reason iam not on a mac is because they are too expensive and too limited for my tastes).
Since iam not getting a mac anytime soon and dont feel like dishing money out for another comp (i biult the one i got now and at a descent price) Iam looking into getting a descent n00bie Linux distribution and wondering which one to get.
And,i heard there is a linux application that can run winblows software,is this true and whats the name of it?

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Deep_Freeze

The application your talking about is called WINE, but from my expireance (sp?) it dont work very well 4 me
i dont know what the actually website adresse of WINE is, but u could do a search 4 it on download.com

and as for disrtobutions go, thats totaly your decision as to wich distro u wanna install
(although, i have heard mandrake is good for beginers)
i think the website adresse is: www.mandrake-linux.com (but if its not, do a search for mandrake at download.com under the linux section, that gores the same for WINE)

hope that helped

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PsYcHoLoGiCaL

I would accually recomend getting slackware. Ive heard some people say mandrakes is good for a beginer because of its unique ablity to be installed into the win32 fat partition. However I say if your going to get linux get the best, no sence in having to learn somthing twice.

Deep_Freeze

you could always go for RedHat (lastest version: 7.2) i have RH 7.1
(www.redhat.com)

like i said its all up 2 u

The Stoned Philosopher

Well i got mandrake anyway,which is better GNOME or KDE? and do they have a linux application that runs winblows programs and where can i get it at?

deadhed

WhY WINDOW$ RuLeZ:

1. AOL baby!
2. J00 cAn HaX0r wItH telnet.exe!
3. My mom buys a new computer every 2 years so we can run the latest $150 upgrade of Windows.
4. You can't give people viruses with Linux.
5. AOL 7.0 is sooooo cool

xQx

Ahh, the age old holy war of which OS.

Having argued for both sides of this debate previously, I'll give my take.

Best Operating System: Linux
Best Operating Enviornment: Windows
Best Video Editing OS: MAC

Linux:

Pros:
- Open source.
A. No piracy coz it's all free
B. No secrets coz you can read the code

- More Stable.
More stable *out of the box*.

- More Secure.
More secure *out of the box*.

- More Powerful
Lets face it, if you want to network related stuff, it's more powerful than windows Period. ... Also, more scriptable.

Cons:
- More difficult to set up
"But redhat can be installed in 5 clicks"
Face it, your dodgy hardware is much more likely to work in Windows without any f*cking around like in linux.

- Everything trys to be like windows
"KDE looks just like windows"
"Star office is almost as good as microsoft office"
"You can port [game x] to linux"

- More difficult to troubleshoot for the end user
Which is easier:
"Right click on my computer, click properties ... etc."
"Drop to a bash shell, type init 6, then edit your /etc/init.d/xxx file"


Overall:
Great operating system for a geek. Very powerful, and less illegal (face it, your only going to pirate windows anyway). It's gaining public support too.
However, if you want to write a letter, manage a database of business transactions, ballance your budget, then fax your friend from the PC... Windows is going to be easier.


MAC OS:

Pros:
- Easy
It's probably the easiest of all operating systems

- Based on Unix. Gives security and stability
All comprimised with the MACOS GUI, but defninatly a step up from OS 9.

- Excellent video editing quality.
Leaves PCs for DEAD when you go to render video.

Cons:
- Security
No auditing, centerilised user management, now allows telnet access.

- Market share
Your still not going to get the same application support as windows

Overall:
A nice 'alternative' operating system. Very easy to use, and performs well for 'artistic' applications.


Windows:
*Please note I'm talking about windows 2000.
Windows 95,98 and ME were SH!T
Windows XP is just windows 2000 with a GUI targetted at a 9 year old.

Pros:
- Application support
It's the standard operating system, everything under the sun has been made for it.

- Ease of use
Not as easy as MAC, but the average user can do their day's work on it without any problems, and basic troubleshooting is a point and click operation

- Security
(Linux fans will hate me for this)
File system has full Access Control List based permissions
File system has inbuilt 128bit encryption for files
File system has AUDITING so you can see who's been doing what.
Centerilized user management (Active Directory) is proven and it works.

- Stability (Server)
A windows 2000 computer that is properly set up by a trained administrator can be every bit as stable as linux. ... The only problem is, "trained" windows administrators are difficult to find because everyone with an MCSE claims to be trained.


Cons:
- Bugs
On average Microsoft release ONE NEW EXPLOIT EVERY WEEK.

- Security
Out of the box windows 2000 is very insecure. ... Also related to point -Bugs-

- Stability
Stability (on a desktop environment) still doesn't compare to that demonstrated by linux.

- Microsoft is in bed with the US government
You never know who might be looking over your sholder

Overview:
It's really no suprise why microsoft still own 90% of the market share, their operating system is widly supported, generally useable, and easy to administer.


Roundup:
Linux for geeks
Mac for art / video
Windows for the (l)users

I don't believe there *IS* one best operating system. They all have pros and cons, you just need to find one that suits your needs.

IMHO if your using X windows in linux, you should be running Windows2000. If your using cmd.exe in win2000 you should be running linux.