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DonkeyPunch

Um, who are the "they" you are talking about? Certainly, the movie and music companies are not the ones putting these files up. I don't think you understand the problem here... "They" do NOT allow them to be on the internet for files sharing, hence the fact that it is illegal.

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Coolguy

You obviously do not know what you are talking about. The last part stripped me of any feeling to inform you of how works.

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troublemaker_42

If flaming was allowed on these forums, I'd be the first to do it with this post. You are obviously uneducated enough to see how these things work. The "THEY" you are talking about here are people like me and you. the people responsible for making movies and music aren't the one's putting it outh there for us to enjoy free of charge. "They" aren't the music and movie companies..."They" are just poeple who purchase the music/movies for personal use, then distribute them on file sharing networks illegally.


PS-Please have at least a HINT of what you're saying before you post! Otherwise, you look like a moron!

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SkinnyP

Downloading a CD is no different then going to BestBuy, putting the CD in your pocket, and walking out. Downloading a movie is no different then doing the same with a DVD. Samething with downloading games, applications, and anything that was meant to be sold for profit and takes money to develop.

Everyone who does this is a thief. The rational for downloading music is simple, its greed. It should be obvious where my stance is in this issue, yet I still download all sorts of things that I should not be. It is extremely hypocritical of me.

I think this P2P situation can be equated to cigarettes. Tons of people are smoking them, even though they know they are bad for them. Don't be an idiot and try to argue cigarettes aren't bad for you, we know its bad - just shut up and keep smoking.

I am a thief and so are all of you.

BloodNOil

There's one difference. After you steal it from Best Buy, Best Buy doesn't have it any more. They've lost something that they paid for.

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Illuminati420

Yea the bad always ruin it for the good.

SkinnyP

It's a drop in the bucket for Bestbuy and it's a drop in the bucket for record labels and artists.

It's a matter of principle. Should people obey the laws because they fear punishment or should people obey laws out of morality?

Oneder

So the MPAA is losing out on "profits" are they?

Show me one movie to date that has made money, they don't. They are collosal failures on the books, everyone of them, thats the way the industry is structured. Every last cent is spent in production or distribution or promotion.

Also, much like the RIAA, if the movie industry were to support more decent artists and better films instead of the crap they throw millions of dollars at just to make money perhaps it would be worth the $9 per head to go to the theater

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Should the punishment not fit the crime?

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NEW YORK — The music industry has turned its big legal guns on Internet music-swappers — including a 12-year-old New York City girl who thought downloading songs was fun.

Brianna LaHara said she was frightened to learn she was among the hundreds of people sued yesterday by giant music companies in federal courts around the country.

"I got really scared. My stomach is all turning," Brianna said last night at the city Housing Authority apartment where she lives with her mom and her 9-year-old brother.

"I thought it was OK to download music because my mom paid a service fee for it. Out of all people, why did they pick me?"

The Recording Industry Association of America — a music-industry lobbying group behind the lawsuits — couldn't answer that question.

"We are taking each individual on a case-by-case basis," said RIAA spokeswoman Amy Weiss.

Asked if the association knew Brianna was 12 when it decided to sue her, Weiss answered, "We don't have any personal information on any of the individuals."

Brianna's mom, Sylvia Torres, said the lawsuit was "a total shock."

"My daughter was on the verge of tears when she found out about this," Torres said.

The family signed up for the Kazaa (search) music-swapping service three months ago, and paid a $29.99 service charge.

Usually, they listen to songs without recording them. "There's a lot of music there, but we just listen to it and let it go," Torres said.

When reporters visited the apartment last night, Brianna — who her mom says is an honors student — was helping her brother with his homework.

Brianna was among 261 people sued for copying thousands of songs via popular Internet file-sharing software — and thousands more suits could be on the way.

"Nobody likes playing the heavy and having to resort to litigation," said Cary Sherman, the RIAA's president. "But when your product is being regularly stolen, there comes a time when you have to take appropriate action."

At the same time, the RIAA offered amnesty to file-swappers who come forward and agree to stop illegally downloading music over the Internet.

People who already have been sued are not eligible for amnesty.

Brianna and the others sued yesterday under federal copyright law could face penalties of up to $150,000 per song, but the RIAA has already settled some cases for as little as $3,000.

"It's not like we were doing anything illegal," said Torres. "This is a 12-year-old girl, for crying out loud."


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Shakes11

It doesnt matter if you are just making a copy or not. The fact of the matter is that before bootleggers, if you wanted to see a movie or listen to music you had to pay for it before you could. Therefore, when you download music or movies, you are not paying for it, so you are stealing. It isnt exactly the same as walking into a bestbuy and rushing out with an armfull of movies being chased by security guards, but it still is no justification for it. People often think its ok to DL movies because the company that makes it is huge, but its still STEALING. There is nothing else to call it.

But, charging the full fine for copyright infringement for DOWNLOADERS is insane. $150000 per song? how is a 12 year old girl going to do that. If a downloader is sued, they should have to pay the full retail price for each song they stole, not 150K each. The only people who should be fined that much are the distributors.

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