VaporStar Review.

Discussion in 'Vaporizers' started by SuperTorch, Jul 27, 2007.

  1. SuperTorch SuperTorch

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    Well it only took me 4 months. Anyhow......here they are


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    I LOVE these units and for $50 shipped I haven't seen anything else that I want.

    1. Bong Vapeing is "FUN AS **LL"
    2. Good looks
    3. Portable
    4. Effective? You bet - Fat Vapor City
    5. One bowl does it - Two knocks you out.
    6. Really pays for itself since it's only $50.
    7. Low Smell.
    8. Vapors in 6 Seconds
    9. The bowl can mix and match with tons of differnt bongs.


    The VaporStar is a total winner. I've used it now for 4 months and I can't find a single negative thing to say about it. Scorching is rare - the only times I do is because I can't accept the fact that there is no more left in the bowl, I just have to prove to myself there is one more micro hit. It has excellent control, I can always take it right to the brink of scorching - When I'm done bowls are beyond spent and rub in my fingers to a true powder, I credit that ability to the VaporStar heat exchanger. I'm learnig that a new bowl of herbs just may be a better way - but hey, I know you know what I mean. If I'm not "Vapeing on the Edge" I scorch 1 in 50 hits if I am I do it 1 in 15 hits. The VaporStar heating element uses 16 air inlet holes to disperse the heat evenly like a bunson burner on a gas stove the flame never reaches the herbs. It's a very effective design and the amount of time/heat appilied is all you worry about as it's virtully scortch proof in the first 6 hits of a bowl. Once the herb is dry it even lets you really extract the utmost last amount out of the herbs because you can apply instant longer/hotter heat to do that, at the bottom of a bowl I just double the time I have the flame heated into the the heat exchanger watch for vapors and that produces results in just 5 more seconds to really extrct any last vapors.

    Final Conclusion - VaporStar's COST/FUN ratio is off the charts. It's the only way I smoke/vape and I like it so much I fully intend to buy me a substantal back up collection maybe 2-4 more, I'll be using these in 25 years. :bong2:

    Negatives: It's lighter based - This means NOTHING to me I could care less and won't push the finicky heath point that far. I like to - Hold my Bong - Flick my Bic - and Vape that Hit all on my couch like I've done with bongs my whole life.

    I have more pics over in the Post your Pic section at the top of the main vaporizer thread.
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  2. Auximenies Auximenies

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    Awesome man,

    Read your review and bought one! Truth be told I was going to anyway once the exchange rate settled down.

    I've got a volcano here at home, but I want something portable and considering the cost of the volcano and that it's not mine I obviously can't sit around vape-ing with my friends, so I figure this should cut it for the social calls of smoking :D

    -Auxi
  3. Equilibrium Equilibrium

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    so do you need a torch lighter?:wave:
  4. SuperTorch SuperTorch

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    Your going to love it, I guarantee. I could list 20 more positives but since my first post had a tad feel of a rant I'll refrain. Just report back after you've used it so others can have a second opinion. They are the best value I've ever made on a smoking item. :pimp:


    BTW: Be sure you use a grinder it makes any vaporizer 4x as effective, buds just tend to be more difficult by design.
  5. SuperTorch SuperTorch

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    Of course not. In fact I hated the look of holding a torch to it(to crack looking) so I don't, that and the fact that a Bic really works perfect, I've learned don't fix what isn't broken. If I do chose to use a torch in the future I'll get one of the single jet high end Colibri's because they tend to have a smaller jet/flame than the cheaper stuff designed to really torch substances as opposed to lighting a cigar like a Colibri. But after useing a decent torch I just blew it off as the bic was so much more natural and simple and just made for the job.
  6. t-1000 t-1000

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    Part of me would want this for portability, but I hate driving around with paraphanelia... I'd rather a portable vaporizer that doesn't look like a bong.
  7. 5drive 5drive

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    Mostly true (although I think 4x is stretching it quite a bit), but not always. The herbalAire, as discussed the other day in another thread, will blast through a broken off piece with effortless ease and makes for a much cleaner session and cleanup. I suspect the Volcano also has no problem with pieces of bud vs. ground weed. It all depends on the vape design. It's a matter of inspecting your vaped weed to determine how well it cooks with your particular vape.
  8. SuperTorch SuperTorch

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    never a good idea




    I've always ground up my weed and have never vaped a bud so maybe it's easier than I think(I think I treid once or twice and it sucked big time- small vapors or to often stiring). The VaporStar instructions say to rub your herbs in your palm to get one last hit, its very messy but ultimately does work in the end what is left with a really vaped session from the VaporStar looks like fine pepper and has been thoroughly vaped. I'm out of herb right now but next time I intend to break my habit of wanting that last 5% and just move to a new bowl. I think sending a message that a grinder is worth every penny and more when vaping is my point and for that matter just plain smoking.
  9. 5drive 5drive

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    I'd agree that most vapes would perform better with ground weed, but there are exceptions. If you bought one I'm sure you'd get info in the instructions about it. At worst, you'd find out by using it. I've got two of the exceptions-a Vapolution and the herbalAire. Vapolution has a small diameter bowl with no screen (a dimple in the glass blocks the weed), so proper loading is important to get good air flow and avoid sucking small particles past the vaping area. Load it too tight and you lose efficiency though. With the herbalAire I have the solution for any partially vaped pieces from the Vapolution-just run the leftovers through herbie. As I said, it's a very efficient machine and using pieces instead of ground weed just makes it a lot easier to keep both ends of the system clean.
  10. SuperTorch SuperTorch

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    The Vapolution really NEEDS a bud or packed herbs to kinda keep it in place, if it used a screen it may do better with ground herbs, that design and the heating element below the bowl is the mian reason I'm hesitant on the Vapolution, everybody likes their Vapolution but it's not ultra easy to use keep clean. The SSV angled design is something I like. I'm big on having clean pieces I clean mine everytime and never more than 2 uses without being clean, and the VaporStar excells at that it can be cleaned top to bottom like new in 5 minutes and when you use it next you really appreciate the taste and just freshness of a clean piece every time. I really dislike the smell of a dirty used device and the way it affect fresh herb hits. Whips are not the easiest to clean but with the right tools I guess really could be and bags aren't easy either. When I'm talking about ground is better I'm really saying how fast/thick you can get the Vapors off the herbs, I'm sure with longer times and more heat even a bud can be fully baked. I can't think of any scenario where a bud can produce more vapors than ground but with the design of some units a bud may be the only way. All I know is hits 1-3 on the VaporStar are VERY THICK with ground herbs but I'll really test a bud to the limit as it would be easier to dump out and load a new one. If you have a decent vaporizer it's going to do the trick, then to each his own on what they want to use as a mainstay I'd really like to test about ten different units but I'll state right off I don't like being location locked so I'm weary of some/most units but if I tried them I may feel different. Right now if I was going electric a Black SSV is where I'd lean towards.
  11. t-1000 t-1000

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    Not true

    If you grind it all up nicely you are rewarded with a milky thick bag full of vapor. Otherwise it's thin.

    Grinding is crucial.
  12. 5drive 5drive

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    Interesting that two such similar vapes would perform so differently.
  13. shadybeep shadybeep

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    I bought a vaporstar a couple of weeks ago, and id mostly agree with everything written in the original review, its excellent, and not just in effect, its also fun to use, somewhat addictively so. Unlike the OP I havent yet perfected it, although I get consistent lovely hits now, sometimes I do burn it a bit. Either that or end up not utilising the herbs fully.
    Its quite possible im just inept though :)
    Generally I have been using the vaporstar till mostly depleted, and putting the remains in the herbalaire for another bag. (Although if you burned it a bit, this goes horribly wrong and tastes like doom).

    The learning curve is somewhat steep I find, who when they try it generally just get nothing whatsoever off it and go away thinking its rubbish, but then they are cheap enough for you to all buy one anyhow.. its still a bit annoying when you have guests.
    On the plus side, id like to reiterate, this thing is excellent. Its tastier than the herbalaire. Plus, its really cheap and efficient, and seems very strong to me at least. One thing that may or may not be attractive to you is I find the vaporstar to be much more incriminating looking. My herbalaire stays forever on my desk with not a word, but I have to put away the bong. This is somewhat annoying, but it brought back fond memories for me, and I have only just become coherent enough to write this :)

    Two things I would say if you are going to buy one, I bought it with a small bong, and also bought one of the borosilicate ones mentioned elsewhere in this thread. They are nice little bongs, but VERY small, and i have ended up using the bigger one more as it lets you see it fill with delicious vapours, making it much easier to get a nice hit. (The bigger one is only about 6.5 inches high, so not enormous). Also, a decent flame makes an enormous difference in the ease of use, I bought a metal refillable and the consistent size of flame is much nicer.

    For the price, there isnt a lot to it, but its well worth it, and for the effect, its about £50 too cheap and wonderful.
  14. SuperTorch SuperTorch

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    Finally a second review.

    Yea A larger flame will get things going faster, but a medium flame by nature lowers scorch mistakes, I go back and forth but I agree sometimes a bigger flame just gets it going and is more fun/less effort. small flames like when a lighter is running out of fuel are real tough to use.

    The VaporStar can be hidden very fast as long as you keep you items collected in one place.

    If your scorching more than you want lower the amount in the bowl, theres a point where you still get Vapors but its very hard to scorch. Learn the largest bowl you can get with out scorching and then stick with it. Every now and then I think I'm going to load a big bowl, then I scorch it and realize I had already known not to exceed a certain amount.(I always grind my legal herbs)

    New people to vaping just can't learn it in one hit and it helps if they understand the concept of what their trying to do, trying to explain it to someone who's intoxicated can be a bit trying, but they usually do by just a few hits.


    Truthfully the VaporStars only stealth plus is the fact that is can be hidden ultra fast, other than that it is beat by most electric units in regards to stealth. The reason why is if you are in a dark room or worse a vehicle theres noting more obvious than a lighter that stays lit for 10 seconds. Even if someone sees the flame light(even off walls) through a window it's obvious your getting intoxicated. If you had say a Vapolution in a car Swims enemy's would have no idea what swim was doing, but if swim used a lighter for 10 seconds at a time every minute over the course of 10 minutes well seeing that would be obvious. So the VaporStars stealth lies at home with a predetermine spot to take it if needed, it then can be fully hid in 5 seconds with proper planing(something nothing else can match but with proper planing even electric units can be put away fast), outside of that its not stealthy at all and even gives the appearance of something worst than tobacco because most people don't know about lighter based vaporizers so they think HMMM...what can they be doing that requires a lighter to be lit for ten seconds at a time. Home with lights on is the only place I use my legal herbs. Thats another plus about electric you can use them in the dark. and don't have to look at your hits.

    For the money the VaporStar should be in everyones collection, surly theres got to be a time when you don't have the 10 minutes to wait for and electric to fully heat up. Theres your VaporStar ready to deliver 6 fast hits in under 3 minutes before you head out the door.

    The J still holds all of the aces other than the smoke factor, The rolled J is the fastest of all to use, when its gone there is no paraphernalia left. From a distance you could be smoking a Marlboro. Everyone knows how to use a J.

    The point is one doesn't cancel the other, The VaporStar Rocks, I knew when I saw it and confirmed it when I bought it. It's not perfect but its worth every penny and more.
  15. shadybeep shadybeep

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    Yeah, by larger flame i didnt mean an actually large one, just the disposable adjustable lighters I get in the shops here tend to utterly die after about 3 minutes of use, providing only the tiniest of flames for the rest of their life, which makes it VERY slow and hard to judge. A nice clipper would most likely be much better, but they seem to have disappeared from the area around my house :)

    Id agree entirely though about the utility of a vaporstar though, Its lovely, fast and tasty. And actually, It was your original review which made me get it, so thanks!

    Id also agree about the joint thing, if only my lungs could handle it still.. although since vaping, I can get away with the odd one or two with no ill effects.
  16. SuperTorch SuperTorch

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    Like all of the top of the line vaporizers, legal herbs leave a lot to be desired in all aspects to say the least. They have nothing on them to be turned to vapor for the most part, I hope my signature isn't sending the wrong message as I've seen a few complaints regarding the VaporStar and legal herbs not producing vapors. I just know exactly what to put in my VaporStar to really get rocking tasty vapors. ;)

    I hope this clears up any issues with the VaporStar not performing, I'm pretty sure none of the vaporizers work if you put cruddy herbs in them. I read a review on a vaporizer website and the guy went on and on about how the VaporStar sucked with his legal herbs, he should have talked to me first and I could have told him which herb really works the best. ;)
  17. Vronin Vronin

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    A bit of a vaping novice here... I haven't used any of the top end vapes, only the aromazap (functional for a while but overall it's junk), and more recently the vaporgenie.

    I chose the genie over the vaporstar because of the portability, and extra stealth... I chose the exotic model, I love that it looks more like a tobacco pipe than anything that'd normally be associated with other herbs. Plus I love how a loaded bowl looks like an unloaded pipe. Like the vaporstar the stealth is limited in that you can't be seen doing it because the lit flame is most conspicuous... but as long as you can't be immediately seen and you won't have any surprises, you can do it just about anywhere.

    Still, the vaporstar seems to have some advantages... I like that you can see the vapor in the glass... seems like that'd give you a better idea how the vapor forms for every techinque you use in order to allow you to master it. Plus the entertainment value of watching the vapor fill the glass.

    Has anyone tried both? I'm wondering if it's worth it to have two lighter based vapes...
  18. SuperTorch SuperTorch

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    Most are so satisfied with either that they feel no need to get the other, thats my case also. The glass on the Vaporstar is very nice because no matter what stage your in like the last 3 hits of a 12 hit bowl you just watch to see those vapors and you know if they get real thick then your pushing since the hearbs is mostly spent at that point, the add visual clues is a major advantage to just overall correct useage. In the Youtube video of him using it start to finish he averages a hit ever about 20 seconds(including holding the hit in) for five minutes he doesn't even take the time to breath his next inhales are his breath could you image inhaling a J or waterpipe every 20 seconds, its a testiment to the softness of vapor hits and I've found myself doing the very same thing with mine. Its a bad habit really but its kinda what the VaporStar just pulls out of you , Light hold release, light hold release, on and on. Now I hit it in groups of 3 then rest for 2 minutes or so.
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  19. jauburn jauburn

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    Where do you buy these?
  20. 5drive 5drive

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    Google 'Vaporstar' and the top hit is the manufacturer. That's also your best price.

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