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John420

They do have a test out to look for human proteins for synthetics.

Its called Igg test.

The liquid synthetic urine the urinator uses will pass the Igg test.

I just recently had one done on it.

I called IRT and they told me that the synthetic is made and sold strictly for Genetic testing and that it had to meet a much more strict criteria and just normal synthetics.

Then I told them I had to take a drug test with it -- they then said they don't sell anything for drug tests, nicely said the conversation was over an hung up on me... are they just paranoid or is this genetic testing thing for real ??

 

Herb Ninja

Mr.Crowley hasn't posted in years to my knowledge so to be honest I don't think he will be here to post, ever again...

I imagine it will be perfectly fine, if they ask tell them thats all you could piss out. Its not like they can force you to piss more, maybe a retest but I doubt it.


Good luck with your test and hopefully new job.

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killerbyte

Thank you for the response and info. Pretty amazing that it will even pass the IGg test if it came to that.
I spoke to the IRT people as well, but really wanted to hear from non-biased people like yourself. Never mentioned a drug test to them, only stayed along the genetic profile angle. Whatever keeps a working product working, is just fine by me.
I believe that people will try anything they think they can get away with, so yes, I believe genetic profiling exists, and these tests are the perfect screen. I think we better start protecting our DNA even more than our Social Security number, as its only a matter of time before the constitutional rights steamroller comes looking for more violations to commit.

Thanks again!

killerbyte

Thanks again Herb Ninja. I kinda figured old Mr. Crowley is gone for now. Thats ok though, The responses I have gotten seem to strengthen my confidence anyway. Looking forward to getting it done.
I have practiced about a dozen times so ar, and think I am ready. Once the adulterant strips show up today, I will mix my first "live" batch and let me see what I have only read to this point.
THANKS for the support!

IamN2pot

KB, I do hope your test results are differant than the results I recieved after from a colleuge that I shipped a vile to for testing with the IgG test dipstick. It failed. THe other vile of the pair that are shipped togather, was the post i put up earler about it passing DOT. I'll be waiting to read your IgG results. N2

 

killerbyte

N2, Thanks and unfortunately, I did not get the IgG test with the udulterant strips. I did it more to test creatine and SG levels for my own piece of mind. I had heard the IgG test was not a common test, so I just worked with that. Should I be concerned? Everything did go well for you.

I am using UrineCheck6 strip test. It was pretty cheap test.

TESTING:
I made a batch at 80ml and tested it at temperature. The creatine level was above 20, but below 50. The SG read low, (below 1.000) in the 80ml sample, so I decided to make a batch using 77ml to see if I would get stronger results. By the way, all the other levels were favorable.

The 77ml sample did seem to pick the creatine up to a solid 50+, but the SG level remained the SAME? All other levels read favorable.

Perhaps the SG test is too close to call with a cheap test strip, as the difference between average and low is so slight. If the main source of testing is based on creatinine, which I think most are, either sample should do the trick, but was confused on the SG levels as I would have thought it would increase as the creatinine did in the more concentrated sample.

IRT says 75ml-85ml, so I do not want to get any closer than 77ml, and just have to believe the SG is ok. You say it worked for you, so I have to imagine the SG is just screwed here.

I have the sample in the urinator for the next couple hours to test the operation and temp and I will test it again as I practice a discharge later. Perhaps the sample needs to mix a bit more than it was when I tested the samples.

More to come..................

killerbyte

TEST DAY!

Just got back from giving my sample to the lab. The form simply had "Drug Profile (5)" which I assume is the standard 5 panel test.

MY PROCEDURE: (I prepared 78ml of distilled water and the synthetic concentrate, then placed it at 102 degrees in the urinator with 2 fresh Duracell batteries.)

Once I arrived at the collection facility and checked in.

1) Had to empty pockets, take off jacket and wash my hands with soap. All expected. No flushing the toilet or running the faucets. No suprise either.

2) Was only required to provide 45ml which was a nice surprise, no split sample for me. Collector made a point as to where the "magic" line was on the cup prior to handing it to me.

3) Sent to bath room, I locked the door, put down the cup on the sink, and unzipped my fly for the urinator pipe. I pinched the tube while taking off screw, grabbed the cup, unpinched, and out she comes. Anyone who has used the Urinator knows when the top is off, the fluid comes out fast!

4) Looked at temp strip on the sample after zipping up, and saw 94-96 degrees lit. This was approximately 2-2.5 hours into the run, so the urinator did its job, as expected.

5) Unlocked the door and presented the collector with the specimen.

6) Collector checked the temp, then proceded to pour the sample into a single capped vial from the specimen cup.

NOTE: Collector asked whether I took vitamins (Yellow was maybe a bit bold I guess). I told her I took One-A-Day, and mentioned guys my age needed any help they could get. She laughed and finished filling the vial.
Sample did not appear dilluted, thats for sure.

7) Collector sealed the capped vial, having me initial as such on the bottle label over the vial top.

8) She gave me the rest of the unneeded sample in the specimen cup to pour in the toilet, then instructed to flush.

9) She handed me a copy of the signed custody form, and told me to pick up my belongings, as I was all set.

10) Got the heck outta there. Went home, Cleaned Urinator bladder with warm water and put away. Send this post to thank the people who helped me keep calm. Did I do good?

Waiting on results.......

buzzmobile

Perfectly done.

Congratulations on your new job.

buzzmobile

killerbyte

Thanks Buzzmobile. I sure hope it comes through clean. I feel pretty good about it though, thanks to people like yourself.

I am so glad I practiced a bunch beforehand, so when it came down to giving the real sample, my shaky hands did not ruin the process. Looking back, it was easy to substitute, but behind that locked door, the first time was pretty tense for me. All that went well, thanks to the practice I did prior.

Because I used pretty much the exact amount of water, and met the temp requirements as you and the others did on your successul tests, I can only come to the conclusion that the Creatinine/SG/PH type issues will turn out favorable for me as well.

Thanks again to all that helped me to this point.

S2

It's illegal to sell things to defraud urine drug tests-- think DOT Commercial driver's license tests etc.

Its like hydro shops, you go in there talking about growing Ganj and they say please leave we dont want that kind of customer here thank you very much--- they aren't going to chance that you are LEO or some activist parent that will give them grief.

And yes, there is a very valid market for synthetic urine to calibrate lab machinery for research labs, hospitals etc.