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Old 10-23-2003, 01:45 PM   #1
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Default Synthetic Urine / Urinator

Have a pre-employment test in 5 days. Never thought I'd get the offer, or an interview so quickly for that matter. Obviously I would have been smarter about cleantime.
Looking at substitution methods, as attempted dillution has burned me before. I have no doubt the suggested aspirin/dillution method may indeed work, but I am a bit gun shy after failing one. I used a 10-day detox (DX100 from EZ Detox) and followed it to the letter.
Urinator is already on the way, but worried about the synthetic urine that comes with it. Someone who knows the skinny on this stuff, please fill me in. I hear it works and hear it doesn't. IRT says they never received a bad result, but could I believe that? I am pressed for time, and unfortunately a clean source is tough to find these days.
Somewhat off the substitution subject. Does anyone have the skinny on the drug Probenecid? I hear it is the real deal for masking metabolites, but not positive how it will do on THC. Told to take 3 tabs the night before with water, then 3 more the next morning a few hours before the test. I have access to this stuff, but again, tired of being burned.
PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!
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Old 10-23-2003, 01:58 PM   #2
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I'm no expert but I assure you some smart people will be by to help you out, but so you can help them help you ill ask a few simple questions.

Do you have a slow or fast metabolism?

When was the last time you smoked?

How often did you smoke, occasionally or habitually?

Don't worry too much in 5 days you should have enough replies to know if your going to pass or maybe how to pass. Goodluck I wish you the best. Peace-
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Old 10-23-2003, 03:09 PM   #3
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Thanks for the support. I have been a daily (nightly) user for a few years now. I am mid 30's, somewhat active, but not a excercise nut by any means. I guess average metabolism. I am a computer engineer, so most of my day is spent in a chair. I stopped smoking when I was layed off, to search for a new job, but that has only been 6 days. I was very lucky to be selected right off the bat for this job. Its a good one.
Because of those issues, I decided on substitution as the only option. I read the urinator was the best at its job, but the sample itself has me worried to death. I mentioned my problem to another person, and they say Probenecid will do the job without substitution, no matter what the metabolite concentration. I saw no posts for this option here, but interesting info on the web. The word is, this site is the place for answers.
I am so sorry I did not quit sooner, but I had no idea the company would belly-up. I don't even drink booze, or do anything other than smoke a little after dinner to relax. Similar to that martini the guy who tests me probably has after his dinner. Difference is, his vice doesn't cost him a job. I feel like a fool right now though, thats for sure.
PLEASE...Someone help this dummy get through this test.
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Old 10-23-2003, 04:50 PM   #4
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Default It works

The Urinator and synthetic urine will pass. I know the paranoia involved but I can assure you that it works. Personal experience is the only thing that will reassure you, but you have the means to get the job.

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Old 10-23-2003, 05:11 PM   #5
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Thanks Buzzmobile, you are definately making me feel better. I've just been reading what seemed to be a increase in people reporting problems with the synthetics. They say the labs can tell the real thing from synthetic with that human protein test "the name escapes me" Is there any special instructions that ensure its success? More/Less water, distilled water? You have done this yourself? Sure like to hear exactly what you did. Sorry to sound so pathetic, but I am very desperate, I want this job real bad.
Truth is, I'd drink a river if it would help, but with substitution, guess that will not help either. I tryed the EZ Detox plan and it failed. The Probenecid is suppose to be the mask of choice though. I'd hate to be a lab rat on that project but hope someone may know the truth on it. I hear it blocks steroids. Originally a drug for gout.
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Old 10-23-2003, 10:35 PM   #6
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Default Practice with the apparatus.

The stuff works I have used it. On the sister site are others who have used the Urinator. The biggest thing is the tube and opening it. Be ready for a rush of fluids! Practice with water and positioniing it in your trousers.

Remember, You Have Done NOTHING wrong. In the privacy of your own cubicle, give them the synthetic sample that they so desire. Mix according to label directions and you'll be fine. Myself and others are testimonies to the Urinator.

Get a good night's sleep. When's the test?

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Old 10-23-2003, 11:02 PM   #7
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Thanks again.
The test is going to be Monday or tuesday afternoon depending on when I sign the contract.
I am tracking the Urinator and Synthetics in transit as I type. I am definately nervous. Feel like I should be drinking water or something, hard to relax. I plan to test the urinator as long as it takes to get its use down pat. I assume from what you said that it comes out pretty fast?
Was reading some posts about this particular brand synthetic testing dilluted? 3oz is too much water to add? Should I add less? Also that the color may be an issue?
Sorry to have so many questions, but I just want to get it right. I am just parked on this site trying to get as much info as possible. I should just relax and feel sure it will work for me. Besides me trying the probenecid, I have no other choice but to have faith.
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I don't have the Urinator, but I have used their concentrated urine. Follow the directions. Add the vile of concentrate to 3 oz of water as directed. have the correct temp, and it passes my DOT test. N2
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Thanks for the advice on the amount of fluids and good test results. So far I am a believer in the process. As with most other testers here, it is very important I have success. I have seen your posts on the other site, you have been at this a while.

MORE QUESTIONS!!!
I got my urinator and synthetic supplies yesterday and practiced a bit already. I have just used plain water so far. It does take a little practice to get the screw off the tube. Once its off, the fluid does come out very fast. Seems strange they use that type closure. I have put in 80ml and pretty consistantly getting 75-80ml back in the cup when testing. I plan to test with the synthetic mix during the last practice before I load up the "live" mixture for the lab. I figured this would help dillute any pure water that may be left in the bladder after all the practice. Gotta have it down to a science.

Is 75ml acceptable? I realize the test only needs 60ml, but has anyone every run into an issue where it was considered suspicious to have just enough?

I would have no problem mixing up 2 samples and adding as much as I can in the bladder, then discarding the rest. Seems wasteful, but its worth it to me if I pass. Any advice?

I even have adulterant test strips coming monday, test Tuesday. I figured I'd test the mix Creatine and SG levels prior to injecting it in the bladder, to get a idea at what I will be giving the lab.

I realize Mr. Crowley did a complete test on this type urine a while back, and hopefully he will post here and tell me I was nuts for even bothering to test which would only strengthen my confidence.

Obviously, I trust the Urinator, but feel a little uneasy about the synthetic urine which I think is understandable till I personally see the passing results. The more success stories I hear, the better I'll feel. sorry for rambling, just a bit nervous stilll.
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Thanks for the advice on the amount of fluids and good test results. So far I am a believer in the process. As with most other testers here, it is very important I have success. I have seen your posts on the other site, you have been at this a while.

MORE QUESTIONS!!!
I got my urinator and synthetic supplies yesterday and practiced a bit already. I have just used plain water so far. It does take a little practice to get the screw off the tube. Once its off, the fluid does come out very fast. Seems strange they use that type closure. I have put in 80ml and pretty consistantly getting 75-80ml back in the cup when testing. I plan to test with the synthetic mix during the last practice before I load up the "live" mixture for the lab. I figured this would help dillute any pure water that may be left in the bladder after all the practice. Gotta have it down to a science.

Is 75ml acceptable? I realize the test only needs 60ml, but has anyone every run into an issue where it was considered suspicious to have just enough?

I would have no problem mixing up 2 samples and adding as much as I can in the bladder, then discarding the rest. Seems wasteful, but its worth it to me if I pass. Any advice?

I even have adulterant test strips coming monday, test Tuesday. I figured I'd test the mix Creatine and SG levels prior to injecting it in the bladder, to get a idea at what I will be giving the lab.

I realize Mr. Crowley did a complete test on this type urine a while back, and hopefully he will post here and tell me I was nuts for even bothering to test which would only strengthen my confidence.

Obviously, I trust the Urinator, but feel a little uneasy about the synthetic urine which I think is understandable till I personally see the passing results. The more success stories I hear, the better I'll feel. sorry for rambling, just a bit nervous stilll.
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