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Old 08-03-2008, 06:01 PM   #11
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I guess what really upsets me here is I feel like people are sitting here trying to 'one up' eachother with their opinions.
RiseofPhoenix, your heart certainly seems in the right place so don’t take this hard or anything. Let me start by saying I think we are all on the same page and no one is here trying to steal the spotlight from each other. The only person we are trying to one up is the man and his horrible drug tests. You have only been a member for a few days and you are missing the tone and nature of this very sensitive forum, which many newcomers do. This section needs highly accurate and proven information because people’s jobs, freedom, lives, or child custody may be at stake. Since there are very few classes offered at colleges or universities on how to beat drug tests we take our information from very reliable sources and use that to help in the battle against drug testing that infringes on our privacy or discriminates against marijuana users. We use information from people in the drug testing industry, trial and error and results, human physiology, biochemistry, and past experiences to formulate and discuss ways to beat drug tests. Just to finish this point up,

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I am not going to defend myself against anyone who doesn't believe I hold any creditability. It's not worth my time.
No one really seems to be attacking you so you don’t need to defend yourself. What it looks like to me is people are disputing your theories as that is what they are without proven and repeatable results, just theories. To prove a theory it also takes more than results from just a few people.
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A good friend of mine owns a local acupuncture and herbal shop. She is a licensed herbalist
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What is a licensed herbalist? I know what an herbalist is but as far as I know there is no state that requires herbalists to be licensed or has a board or organization that licenses herbalists. Since herbs don’t require and prescription and are really not regulated by the FDA, why would you need to be licensed. I might be wrong so if I am, please link me to a state licensing board or something. I would like to know.

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Stay away from: Aleve and Ibuprofin. Contrary to popular belief that the EMIT test isn't effected by Ibuprofin and Aleve, at times it is.
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Secondly, there are false positives even with the EMIT test, but I am sure you will find a way to combat that fact either way. I think it is lude to come into a forum and make statements on something you have little or no knowledge of.
I’m sorry to say this because I don’t want you getting upset but the people who are telling you that there are no false positives on EMIT are right. EMIT has been retooled many times over the years to fix any false positives. Besides that, almost all drug tests that are determined to be non-negative after immunoassay are then tested by GC/MS for confirmation. Unfortunately, GC/MS is as close to perfect as it gets. It’s like DNA for chemicals.

I know if you do enough net searches you will find things that say otherwise. This is mainly because of 2 reasons. One is old information and the second is because companies that sell detox drinks or “masking” drinks or additives sometimes like to scare people into buying their products. It’s a marketing gimmick. In fact, here’s a little story about false positives. Probably the last drug known to cause a false positive was a prescription for a proton pump inhibitor that reduces stomach acid called Protonix. A bunch of people in a nursing home failed the immunoassay portion of the drug test but not GC/MS. Very quickly it was discovered why and the test was corrected. The chances of failing any immunoassay because of a false positive from other medicines OTC or prescription have to be in the range of hitting the lottery.

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Nettle leaves: Acts as a diuretic to help release toxins from the body
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I made that post only in regards to assist in the dilution method. Not trying to act like an expert, but this advice was from a licensed herbalist who runs a local acupunture and herbal store. (I did post a response before but somehow it's gone)
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While there are prescription meds, some herbs and other non medicinal diuretics out there, really they have no place in the dilution method. First of all it is the dilution method not the make your urine as dilute as possible method. The method calls for very specific liquid volumes because you don’t want to over dilute and get a negative dilute which may or may not get you a retest. By adding diuretics to the mix, you are making it harder for yourself because sometimes it is hard to gauge how the diuretic will affect someone. It is more effective and more controllable to dilute your urine by increasing your fluid intake and measuring this than by adding other chemicals. Plus, since herbs are unregulated by the FDA, often times the strength of an herbal product is unknown or may vary from manufacturer to manufacturer or even from different lot batches from the same manufacturer. Also, just because you are increasing the amount of water in your urine doesn’t mean your body is excreting extra THC metabolites in the urine. I wish my link in my sig to the thread about drinking lots of water is useless so you could see some more on this subject.

Again, we are all on the same page and I think you got off to a bad start. If you hang around and do some more reading and interaction, you will see that there are many regulars in the drug testing forum who are qualified to answer drug testing questions and are only out to help perfect strangers beat their drug test.
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Old 08-03-2008, 07:55 PM   #12
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I agree with all the posts that dispute what riseofpheonix75 is saying about false postitives, etc.

As Buzzby and and others have said only time and exercise can rid your body of THC Metabolites to a level to enable you to pass a drug test.

riseofphoenix also said that "depending on how much you smoke" the method he/she prescribed would enable you to pass a drug urine test in 2 weeks time. The fact is that depending on how much a person smokes and their metabolism a person may be able to pass a drug urine test in 2 weeks without doing any treatment whatsoever. The time it takes to get clean varies from person to person and there isn't any "set time" on how long it will take someone to test clean for THC Metabolites.

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What is a licensed herbalist? I know what an herbalist is but as far as I know there is no state that requires herbalists to be licensed or has a board or organization that licenses herbalists. Since herbs don’t require and prescription and are really not regulated by the FDA, why would you need to be licensed. I might be wrong so if I am, please link me to a state licensing board or something. I would like to know.
riseofphoenix75 never said that it was a requirement to be a "licensed herbalist", he/she just said that a friend was a "licensed herbalist". I also know some "licensed herbalist". It is not "required" by the State, it is just a course that you take that gives you the knowlege of herbs and you get a certificate stated that you are a "licensed herbalist". A licensed herbalist has taken courses that gives them a greater knowlege of herbs than your average person on the street would have. That knowlege is handy if, for example, you own or operate a herbal or naturalist store.

The search feature on this site a valuable tool and the search feature in your web browser such as yahoo or google is also a valuable tool for research. The next time you think you haven't heard of something, just type it in a search engine. You may be surprised at what you find.
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