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Old 07-30-2008, 10:56 PM   #1
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i have cut down alot but i failed a test today but i absolutly have to pass next week but don't have the cash to buy anything expensive. HELP???!!!!!
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Old 08-02-2008, 08:25 PM   #2
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A good friend of mine owns a local acupuncture and herbal shop. She is a licensed herbalist and I am on supervision myself and just had a drug test. I used Vale - however I am not sure whether or not I passed. I have not been contacted yet by my PO so I assume I passed. Regardless, I want to make sure if I didn't that when I go in again I'll pass with flying colors. My friend has helped others pass drug test in two weeks time, meaning cleansing their systems of toxinsm. It has been known to get THC out of your system in 2 weeks - it depends on how much you smoke. Follow these directions to the "T". BTW - this is no guarantee, this is simply a method to help with cleansing your body of toxins and assisting in the dilution method.

So this is what you are going to need to do.

Buy some 2 ounces organic NETTLE LEAF (You make tea with this)

Buy 4 ounces liquid herbal extract of RED CLOVER TINCTURE (in bottle with a dropper)

DIRECTIONS:

NETTLE LEAF TEA - Drink at least one cup 3 times daily until ONE DAY before your test

Take one teaspoon per cup and boil the nettle leaves directly in the tea pot so the leaves are in there freely. Strain the leaves out of the water by using a sieve - it's like a strainer, but the mesh is tightly woven to separate any remaining leaves from the tea. Put this in a jug to keep in the fridge. You can drink hot or cold. Make as much as you want. I make what I need to drink for 2 days or so.

RED CLOVER TINCTURE - Drink 3 times daily until ONE DAY BEFORE TEST

You will need to buy this with a dropper. Put 3 squirts in a glass of water 3 times a day.

DRINK AT LEAST 8 glasses of water a day. (5 more to be exact because you will have drank 3 glasses with the Red Clover Tincture)

OTHER HELPFUL TIPS:

Drink Cranberry Juice or take cranberry pills and take some aspirin every day. The day before the test and the day of the test take a aspirin regularly. Don't take too much and go overboard or your ears will start ringing. I would take a good dose of it through out the day of the test. Do not drink any tea or Red Clover Tincture the day of the test.

Stay away from: Aleve and Ibuprofin. Contrary to popular belief that the EMIT test isn't effected by Ibuprofin and Aleve, at times it is.

Good luck and let me know if you need any more help.



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With one exception, none of the things mentioned in the previous post will help you pass a UA. The only things that get THC metabolites out of your system are time and fat-burning exercise. You'll find extensive documentation in the sticky threads at the top of this forum's listing.

The exception is taking aspirin immediately before the test. This will sometimes produce a false negative with one kind of test.
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No offense to you Buzzby, but the person who posted asked for something that is inexpensive. Never once did I post that this is a quick fix, or to get THC out of the system - as I am fully aware being a child of a nurse with a masters degree for 30 years that THC metabolizes in the system. I gave her this advice only as a method to assist in diluation. A licensed Herbalist and Acupunturist who owns a renowned business where I live in Madison, WI assisted me with this method and I have reason to believe it works as I discussed this with my Mother as well who had her own feedback that these two herbal remedies could help.

When I mentioned to my friend what you had to say, her response was:

Nettle leaves: Acts as a diuretic to help release toxins from the body

Red Clover Tincture: Used as a purifier, diuretic which contains isoflavones with many vitamins and minerals. Also acts like a pain reliever and has many attributes to the body as aspirin does.

I guess I would believe it would be a good idea to at least educate yourself on these methods if you are unsure of them. I trust my friend to the core and never would believe she'd tell me to do something that would not benefit the cause. I hope I am not sounding short or sarcastic, I guess I have reason to believe what a licensed herbalist has to say when she has helped more than one person who has had a short period of time to pass a drug test.
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I made that post only in regards to assist in the dilution method. Not trying to act like an expert, but this advice was from a licensed herbalist who runs a local acupunture and herbal store. (I did post a response before but somehow it's gone)

FYI, the nettle leaves are used as a diuretic to flush toxins out of system and the Red Clover Tincture acts much like aspirin as it is used as a pain reliver and has many other detox uses.

BTW - nobody is an expert around here, I am only trying to help a person with the help I received from not only a professional but a very close friend who would never do anything to steer me in the wrong direction. I'd give her advice to anyone I know because she's been in the business for years and I live in a community where a lot and I mean a lot of people smoke.
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Old 08-03-2008, 04:35 AM   #6
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I made that post only in regards to assist in the dilution method. Not trying to act like an expert, but this advice was from a licensed herbalist who runs a local acupunture and herbal store. (I did post a response before but somehow it's gone)

FYI, the nettle leaves are used as a diuretic to flush toxins out of system and the Red Clover Tincture acts much like aspirin as it is used as a pain reliver and has many other detox uses.

BTW - nobody is an expert around here, I am only trying to help a person with the help I received from not only a professional but a very close friend who would never do anything to steer me in the wrong direction. I'd give her advice to anyone I know because she's been in the business for years and I live in a community where a lot and I mean a lot of people smoke.
There are experts here and even a person who administers tests herself.

Nothing product you buy can clean your system out faster. THC metabolites are stored in fat cells and nothing you mentioned cleanses a person's fat.

the person you are talking about is in the business of making money and will say just about anything to make people buy their products.


To the OP, look at N2s tips for dilution and follow every single step that is mentioned. Since its a probation test its going to be supervised, so subing is out of the question.

But if they know you failed a test last week, they will most likely compare the level of THC metabolites in the urine and if they went down considerable, they will know you did not smoke during the week. If you pass the test next week using dilution then take a test again the week after without dilution you levels will most likely be higher and they will think you smoked even if you didnt.

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I guess what really upsets me here is I feel like people are sitting here trying to 'one up' eachother with their opinions.

This woman who helped me is my friend, she has been for 20 years and I really don't appreciate your putting her in the catagory of saying she would say and do anything to make money.

Secondly, there are false positives even with the EMIT test, but I am sure you will find a way to combat that fact either way. I think it is lude to come into a forum and make statements on something you have little or no knowledge of. I think you should take the time to read what I wrote when I said there were no guarantees. It is a detox method to implement the dilution and this was told to me face first. I see this as people being selective on what they are responding to.

I'm sorry I ever posted something to try to help someone. That's what I thought this forum was for. I guess I tend to forget that others don't see it that way. Never will I post in this place again and I am sure none of you have anything good to say about me or any opinion that I have or ever would. I am sooooo sorry I ever decided to lend advice that was given to me by another because they were worried about my welfare and I decided to share it here.

I am not going to defend myself against anyone who doesn't believe I hold any creditability. It's not worth my time.
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i didnt mean to offend you. It just you method really wont help detox someones body and this guy said he had little money to spend and only a week clean time. Why waste money on products that most likely will have no effect on the outcome?

and maybe it was a little unfair to judge your friend of 20+ years and for that im sorry.
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Never once did I post that this is a quick fix, or to get THC out of the system
Yes you have. You said...
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My friend has helped others pass drug test in two weeks time, meaning cleansing their systems of toxinsm. It has been known to get THC out of your system in 2 weeks
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I have reason to believe what a licensed herbalist has to say when she has helped more than one person who has had a short period of time to pass a drug test.
For the record, I think its completely fair to say that there are licensed herbalists and nurses with Masters degrees who lack the understanding of how the human body processes THC. For starters, THC is non-toxic, so its erroneous to label THC a "toxin".

Diuretics may make a person urinate frequently, but they play no role in ridding the body of THC. THC is stored in the fat cells and the only way to rid THC is to burn the fat cells. When the fat cells burn, the THC metabolites are released back into the bloodstream and eventually exit via the urine.
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I'm sorry I ever posted something to try to help someone. That's what I thought this forum was for. I guess I tend to forget that others don't see it that way.
In the Drug Testing forums, we like to stick with "just the facts". You would do the forum plenty of help by keeping things factual. Its the "opinions" and other non-facts that land an uninformed reader in the unemployment line, or worse, jail.
If you dont like the idea that we hold the reader to a high standard of fact, but thats how it is here and shall remain.
And if that idea is not your cup of tea, then perhaps the Drug Testing forum is not for you.

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You say:
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I am on supervision myself and just had a drug test. I used Vale - however I am not sure whether or not I passed.
Yet you didn't use or consult your friend of 20 years for help when you had to take a test...
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This woman who helped me is my friend, she has been for 20 years and I really don't appreciate your putting her in the catagory of saying she would say and do anything to make money.
Then you try to pass off her advice here, when you didn't take it yourself.

When people come here saying things like:

I didn't use it myself, but I heard if you do.....

My friend said he passes all the time using....

I have a cousin who goes to a doctor who always recommends....

If it isn't first hand, we don't really give it much credibility.
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