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Old 09-04-2008, 11:21 PM   #11
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I didn't say he woudl be dilute or that he had a shy bladder. Collectors are trained to not give donors so much water that they will test diluted. Also, you have to try for up to 3 hours. if you are trying to dilute, there would be no way you could hold it for 3 hours.

I said he would fail. Positive. Show banned substances in his urine. Not pass. Recieve a failing grade.

I can't say it in any different terms.

if you fail a drug test, employers aren't doing themselves any favors by allowing you to re-test. Why even bother to test in the first place if they are going to allow positive's to re-test?
and the people at this place weren't trained to be nice let alone tell the donor how much water to drink. the last place i was a donor at, i had a shy bladder and they told me to go in the waiting room and drink some water and they would call me back. good training?
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Old 09-04-2008, 11:43 PM   #12
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Yeah, most medical clinics lack severely in the training department.

It has been my experience at my facility, in my area that about 85% are failure due to THC, the rest are due to another drug or substituted/adulterated specimen or refusals to test.

The benefits of any reductions in insurance premiums don't outweigh the risks of allowing a person who has failed a drug test to continue to work. If that employee hurts himself or another employee (accidents happen to all people whether they use marijuana or not) then the people who are hurt might have a case against the employer for negligence.
Also an employee who also fails but isn't given the opportunity to retest (because he isn't as valuable to the employer) can claim discrimination.

No, I don't feel that people are all potheads and useless if they fail for THC.
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looser, looser, shoulda been a boozer instead of a pothead! lab call today. that's a positive for THC. now the good news. 5 mins after the lab called the company called and said i can retake the test at my own expense. just as i expected. so i have a clean sample sitting in the freezer. looks like i'll be subing it. will go in monday so i have the weekend to practice. ANY TIPS AND SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE GREATLY APPRIECIATED!
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thanks for the info. my situation should be almost the same except i only have a 5 minute ride to the place so all should be good. gotta run!
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Old 09-06-2008, 12:25 AM   #16
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looser, looser, shoulda been a boozer instead of a pothead! lab call today. that's a positive for THC. now the good news. 5 mins after the lab called the company called and said i can retake the test at my own expense. just as i expected. so i have a clean sample sitting in the freezer. looks like i'll be subing it. will go in monday so i have the weekend to practice. ANY TIPS AND SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE GREATLY APPRIECIATED!
I believe you don't understand. They aren't talking about YOU going into a collection facility and submitting a second specimen. They are talking about sending the split (B) specimen of the same sample you already submitted to a second lab at your expense (average $150 - $200) to be tested. Since it is from the same void, it too will test positive.

At least that is my take on it. I could be wrong and this employer is just really stupid and you are just really lucky, but I don't think so.
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I believe you don't understand. They aren't talking about YOU going into a collection facility and submitting a second specimen. They are talking about sending the split (B) specimen of the same sample you already submitted to a second lab at your expense (average $150 - $200) to be tested. Since it is from the same void, it too will test positive.

At least that is my take on it. I could be wrong and this employer is just really stupid and you are just really lucky, but I don't think so.
nope, i understood perfectly fine. just because i smoke pot doesn't mean i'm fuckin retarded! picked up new paper work yesterday and went back to the donation center. a sucessful sub of 3oz at 96 degrees! subbing is the only way to go! as far as the stupidity of the company, well that's still up for debate. all i know is that they wanted the best person for the job and well now they got it. (if the results come back negative, and they should) just because you don't need smart and experienced people to work at you company doesn't mean other companies don't!
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it's official! company called a few minutes ago. startin on monday! now can i get a winner, winner, chicken dinner!
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I don't know why you are so nasty to me. I am telling you what should have happened when you tested positive. Just because the employer chooses to waste it's money and re-test positives doesn't mean any other company will.

Why are they testing you in the first place? What contractor or government agency are they lying to regarding their drug testing program?

These questions don't really matter, it is just that not everyone can count on a re-test like you were given. Very, very few people get a second chance like you did.

I never said you are retarded; let alone 'fucking retarded'. But I do agree with you that the stupidity of the company is up for debate along with whether they actually did get the best person for the job.
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It has been my experience at my facility, in my area that about 85% are failure due to THC, the rest are due to another drug or substituted/adulterated specimen or refusals to test.
SEC, The highlighted part is what I'm wondering about...Does this mean quick fix 4.2 or are you talking about something else? Am I gonna pass THC test and will they validity test for the sub and will they find that it is a sub with my QF 4.2, 96 degrees, unexposed to direct sunlight batch number ending in '08? I'm just curious cuz i took the test on Monday...no word yet.
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