sharkykar

Ok guys so i've been lurking for a bit and now have the need to use this method. I came across a job opportunity and will be tested sometime next week or the week after, i stopped as soon as i found out though i had cut back a bit in the past month. My last smoke was on Sunday. i've been excersicing somewhat regularly as of the past 2 weeks. I'm not asking for a will i pass or not so bare with me please. I did a little research and read through a substantial amount of pages in the N2's dilution thread. I made a shopping list and went and purchased some items. I had a couple of questions as far as the process goes and they are as follows.

How much creatine monohydrate should i be taking?
The guy at GNC figured out what i was buying the things for and said i should probably take about 15grams per day, i was thinking more about 10. I'm a hefty guy as it is, and by hefty i mean fat but not too fat. i can still run a couple of miles 5'11 225lbs as of this morning yesterday. I'm planning on taking it the 3rd and 2nd day before the test. is that acceptable?

How much water should i be drinking? The guy at GNC said if i was going to be taking 15grams of creatine then i should be looking at somewhere between 1-2 gallons a day. Wouldn't i end up pissing it all out before the test?

What does the aspirin do exactly? I know it's a blood thinner but i'm wondering how this helps.

I might come up with some other questions but those are the main ones for now. I purchased 3 urine tests i'll be using one today, another one on my test run and the final one on my test day. i'll make sure to keep you guys updated on it but i'd definately appreciate some help with my questions. I want to make sure i do this right. Thanks guys!

EDIT/UPDATE

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Stuff i purchased

unflavored creatine monohydrate powder= $29.99
liquid vitamind b complex= $7.69
vitamin b2 (accidentaly purchased before i saw liquid at gnc)=$7.99
chewable aspirin=$1.99
First choice Marijuana test (X3 for me)= $15.99

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Uh oh it came out positive

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Ready to be shipped.

NOTE: i added the same pics as attachements and links.
I also missed putting the chewable aspirin on the pic


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sharkykar

bump....sorry guys i'd really appreciate some help.


EDIT: I'm currently on my test run and i just took 405mg of aspirin and am on my 2nd 8 oz drink.

I haven't actually had breakfest yet, will it matter if i eat something? will i have to up the amount of fluid i drink? i'm assuming some of the stuff i'll eat might absorb some of the water

aziz

sorry, man, i can't really help. i'm watching the clock waiting for my own results. all i can say is good luck.

well, i can add: 1. be careful going overboard on the creatine. it can cause problems at high doses. 5-10g/day should be ok, but the 15g would make me nervous. may as well start it 4-5 days before the test, just to be sure you have a nice stable level of creatinine by test day. the stuff has no taste, so it isn't real tough to down a spoonfull for a few extra days.

2. from everything i've read, a gallon of water in the 4 hours prior to the test is enough. more than enough, according to n2's plan. just make sure you replace what you expell during that time. also, waterloading in the days leading up to the test won't do anything. the hours beforehand are the important ones. on the other hand, creatine does enhance muscle hydration, so maybe a little more water than usual would be a good idea for the time you are taking the stuff.

3. near as i can tell, aspirin acts as some kind of screen during the test...somehow acting to "hide" the THC metabolites for the EMIT test. or at least it used to. i haven't found a straight and definitive answer as to whether it still works or not. most of the sources i've come across saying it helps were written between 2000-2005....i don't know if the tests themselves have been "fixed" to overcome this weakness. as with the creatine, obviously be careful with the high aspirin doses. i took 10 total on the day of my test (4 eight hours before, 4 four hours before, and 2 an hours before) with no real problems other than some lightheadedness. i don't know that i'd go beyond that, though. i also don't know that i'd do that for days running (during practice runs the day before, for example).


like i said, good luck. if you can push the test back to week after next, it will help. the more time the better.

Sec

If you get the shits, you have taken too much creatine.

Drinking water in the days prior to the test does nothing. The dilution method is designed to be done in the 3-4 HOURS prior to the test, not 3-4 DAYS.

The only thing you should be doing 3-4 days prior is taking the creatine suppliment.

You can take aspirin and/or tums, I don't know if they help, they certainly don't hurt.

The vitamins only help your urine stay yellow with all the fluid intake on the day of the test. They do nothing as far as helping you pass. You can't be failed on the color (or lack thereof) of your urine.

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sharkykar

thanx for the info guys. And aziz good luck with your answers let me know how it goes.

So last 2 days i've had i would say about 22 grams of creatine. Not to mention i've had a couple of burgers and ham. i'm not sure if eggs have them but i've had my share for breakfest and tuna. My latest fad has been those arizona lemon flavor iced teas so i'm pretty sure i can sub water for that yeah? it's pretty cheap at 1 whopping dollar for a 42 oz drink i can just make sure i spread it out in an hour and then have another 8 oz cup of water just to be safe?.

So after my 405mg of aspirin i'm going to go ahead and pop maybe 4 tums @ 2 hours before the test since my test run i'm doing @4hrs before the test currently.

What do you guys think can i have something to munch on while i'd be this close to the test? i'm kinda hungry and it's 11:17am

Sec

Yeah, eat salty foods, French fries, potato chips, etc...

aziz

also, any fat you consume after you've been clean will be burned before the THC-ladden fat from back in the day...don't go eating lard or anything, but....

seems like the thing with dilution is to line up as many "can't hurt" factors as possible. given that it all comes down to a roll of the dice, the more "+1%'s" as you can tack on, the better.

i dunno. all i DO know is every second i spend typing this stuff is another second i'm not staring at my cell phone wondering why it hasn't rang.

sharkykar

don't stress too much over it. i'm tryiing to just relax because stressing is NO fun!. anyway i've got some fatty foods lined up. i'll probably have a couple of orders of carne asada fries the days before the actual test so i can store some fat. i believe they are the fattiest dishes on the planet, if you've ever had some you'll know what i'm talking about it's like the fastlane to heart disease right there

aziz

hey, just posted it another thread, but i just got the "OK" from my recruiter...looks like everything worked.

to review, i followed the dilution sticky, with 100oz of gatoraid instead of ~66oz of water, adding in 7 tums. 3 1/2 days clean, daily-lite smoker.

sharkykar, you're in basically the same spot as me, with a little more clean time. you should be good. hopefully. good luck, man. i know how rough this whole thing can be. hang in there.

sharkykar

sweet!. congrats dude.

I was reading up on the items that the 2 containers of vitamins i got are and i'm beginning to reconsider the liquid b complex, everyone keeps saying niacin wont do any good and taking too much of it could lead you straight to the hospital. one of the ingredients on the B complex in liquid form i got has

niacin 20g per serving which is calling it 100% of daily intake

So i think i'm going to skip on the easy route of just pouring the liquid into my drink and i'll go back to the B2 that i got from cvs and i'll just have to crush the tablets.