aziz

hi all.

i had a pre-employment wizz-quiz a few days ago, and used the dilution thread as my handbook/piece of mind leading up to it. i had been clean for all of about 87 hours beforehand. i'm a regular but light smoker, daily use, but generally only one or two hits of pretty decent stuff nightly. 5'8"/145lbs, for what that's worth.

anyhow. i did n2's dilution meathod, substituting gatoraid for water, and i upped the amount to around 100oz's...because i'm paranoid and a "neg:dilute" seemed better than a straightup positive. did the creatine for days before, 10 aspirin in the 12 hours leading up to the test, 7 tums. figured i did about all i could short of subbing. felt ok about my chances, especially given the "at least 48 hours clean" qualifier n2 mentioned. my only real concern was that it took about 45 minutes from leaving my house to giving the actual sample, and i neglected to take any liquids with me during that time...i'm hoping that wouldn't be a huge factor.

of course, i got home afterwards and was pretty much freaking out. spent the rest of the day (and basically all of the next) reading through the 103 pages of the dilution sticky and the rest of this site....and noticed that the more recent posts by those-in-the-know have started being less optimistic about people who hadn't been clean for 7+ days.

has the general outlook on the success of the dilution meathod changed over the three years since n2 put the dilution recipe together? is it now seen as a long shot if you haven't had a week or two to clean out naturally?

the test was tuesday afternoon....it's now thursday afternoon, and i haven't heard anything. which, of course, means the freaking out is continuing. i'm trying to not jump to conclusions about the "nothing yet", but the people who asked for the test are a recruiting firm...i would think they are motivated to get this thing done as soon as possible, as they only get paid if/when i get paid. 24-48hrs for a neg result...and i have to think they'd let me know as soon as they heard. the fact that they haven't contacted me yet has my paranioa insisting it means i failed the initial test, and they are now working on the more-accurate confrimation.

so. it's too late for advice, but i am trying to blunt my concern with some reality. what is the current thought on minimum dry-time for the dilution meathod to be reasonably effective?

lastly, thanks to everyone involved in this site. whether it works out for me or not, this place is the only reason i have any hope at all. it's amazing you guys have been here for years and years giving us terrified people help.

mondaymonkey

well subbing we know is completely 100 percent foolproof if you don't get caught...

Dillution is anybodies game

aziz

yeah. and never smoking pot is 100%, too. question is: is the 48 hour minimum mentioned in n2's dilution sticky realistic for that solution? or is dilution a bad bet unless you've been clean for a long period of time? if so, is there any estimation on how long is needed to have a chance? i know this stuff is not solid and predictable math, but a ballpark?

Sec

Quite frankly, I don't think 48 hours is long enough. It is possible, with 48 hours but it is difficult laced with luck for anyone to pass with only 48 hours clean after daily heavy use.

Like you say, 7 days would have a much better chance/easier time of passing with the dilution method.

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aziz

got it, thanks for the reply. at least that moves me from the "crap, did i pass?!?!" sleepless-nights phase to the "well, probably not...send out more resumes" phase.

thanks again for this site and the input.

KillerWeed420

Yeah I think that dillution works good if you're a light smoker but you start smoking more and dillution might not work. And now subbing has become a lot easier and with the synthetic urine products out there, its just a lot safer to sub.

knotme66

Hello Sec.....First and foremost I am always taking heed toyour advise and/or suggestions. You give some very good insight to help others here. I also like hearing your opinions like the one earlier in this thread about being less likely successful to pass with 48 hours clean time for a heavy daily user. Now...to pick your opinion a little further........What about someone who is a light daily user (3-4 hits day), taking metamucil and eating right? In just your opinion, would that difference make a great deal of difference in passing (with total dilution method of course) with only the 48'ish hours?

aziz

not that i know anything at this point, but that is essentially my situation. reduce the hits/day to 1-2, and bump the hours clean up to ~80. lite daily user with only a few days clean. i'm on day three after my test without hearing anything (for a recruiter who is [was] jonesing pretty hard to get this contract filled). it seems to me that in this situation no news is probably bad news.

i'll confirm it if/when i hear anything, but after melting down all of the recent advice, it seems that subbing is the WAY WAY better idea if you can't have at least a week or two with no fun. near as i can tell, if you are that close to the last time you partook, dilution should be seen strictly as a no-other-option path.

if you can, don't chance it. a bottle of clean piss tucked between your legs is the better (only?) way to go for our sad situation. which sucks, because i'm pretty sure i'd be too nervous to sign the release form after pulling a 007 like that. international man of mystery i am not.

Sec

I would say that if you only take 3-4 hits a day and you were healthy, thin and eat right every day, you would have less fat to store THC and therefore retain less THC. Most very skinny people tend to test negative much more quickly than obese or not-so-thin people do. (The munchies are really working against you here).

There is no exact formula. It varies from person to person, but skinny people, people with high metabolisms, younger people, tend to test negative a lot faster than obese, older and those who have a hard time keeping the weight off.

aziz

PHEW. just talked to my recruiter, and she said that outside of some paperwork the end-employer still has to finish, everything is in order. "your background check and drug test passed, so...."

!!!

no start date yet...still waiting on that last paperwork. the pessimist in me (which is most of me) says there is still a chance for things to go wrong, but...it looks like n2's dilution method got me where i needed to be!

thanks once again to everyone running and supporting this board. life savers, all of you.