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imfreakingout

i am on probation.

have not smoked for 77 days. since early july.

smoked small amounts on average once a night before i stopped. not huge amounts or all day long or anything.

i have a fairly developed knowledge of the workings of these urine tests and am familiar with dilution and half-lifes and all the rest.

however since it had been such a long period of abstainance i saw no need to try to dilute for the test today and since it was early in the morning i woke up and went right to it without even evacuating my first urine of the day before hand. i think i made a big mistake..

i must have been fairly dehydrated because the urine i produced was very dark for me. almost orange. i usually produce a light yellow and at worst a somewhat full colored yellow in the mornings. i was confident that the time elapsed was far in excess of what i would need to pass. but i failed according to their drip test..



what the hell?!?

they have sent it on to a lab to confirm and they say they are giving me the 'benefit of the doubt' that their drip was wrong. i would normally have full confidence in my cleanliness because of the 77 days i have put behind me without use but all day i have been freaking out and i am dreading that the lab will have a positive result.. and i feel very stupid for not diluting or not giving at least a second sample of the day.

my probation officer says that she will 'know' that i have been smoking even if the results come back with a very low number.

this is a nightmare.. i don't think i will be able to sleep tonight and i 'should' have nothing to worry about but i am worried to death.

what could cause this?!? i know it is possible (i've read some say it can be 90 days or more to really get clean) but it seems very improbable that my urine would be dirty.

if the drip strips are set for a 50ng/ml or whatever threasehole and it showed positive the math is staggering. even with a 10 day half-life it would have put my original number when i stopped at something like 6400!

now the gc test is going to test positive for anything over a 15? this is what worries me most is that the test to confirm is actually a lot harder to get under than the original test. so the only way for this to have happened is if the strip test was faulty (i wish i had more confidence that this was possible) or there is something seriously wrong with my body/metabolism.

someone help me! where are the experts.

god why me?

i have offered to take another test tomorrow as i have cried that i need a retest and i am sure that i can pass that even if i use a small amount of dillution and i think my best option is to ask that that sample be lab tested as well if only to show the wild variation in the number produced from one day to the next. that way if the first result is a low number but still positive i can explain that i must have been dehydrated and the sample was an unfair representation.

it is really hard to be in my seat as most of you may know because i feel helpless and i know i have done everything i need to do to allow myself to pass. i haven't been anywhere near the stuff for 77 days for christ sake.

should i make an appointment with a doctor and try to address any other reasons why this could have happened or is it pretty much impossible to get someone with intimate knowledge of the workings of drug tests?

anyways i still hope i am doing a lot of worrying for nothing and the lab will come back with a negative but something is seriously wrong if it is positive. and it is very unfair to me in that i have done the right thing and abstained.

whew i know this is long so thanks for those who stay with it and offer some insight. i really needed to take to someone.

 

Trocisp

I've read that it has taken more than (or up to) 100 days to get clean.

If you're a chronic user (which daily use is, regardless of the amount), you have a significant amount of THC stored in your fatty tissues, even if you're a very slender person.

Using the first void of the day, on a day when you were dehydrated could have been the issue. You may very well have come in just above the cutoff line, and had you urinated before hand you might have pissed clean.

runamukk

also depends on how much body fat you have since it is stored in fat cells

imfreakingout

this is such bad news and i am really devestated that i could abstain for so long and still potentially fail. no one cares about any of the inner workings of this and my probation office admits that none of their staff have any intimate knowledge of how these tests really work. they take them for what they are and just say well if you have not smoked you won't fail.

I HAVE NOT SMOKED in 78 days today and i am damn proud that i am doing this the right way but i know they will accept nothing less than an admission that i did in fact smoke or else i will probably be in a lot more trouble than if i admit nothing but the real truth which is i haven't been anywhere near the stuff.

worst day of my life. at least when i know i did something wrong i can accept it and sleep at night. this situation is going to keep me up and drive me insane. so hard to calm down. i really don't know what to do.

SweetBudz

I've LEarned my lesson with there oppressing tests..
Sub and heatpad from now on .. Not gonna ever bother cleaning up again

 

tuffymcfuckelby

imfreakingout--I'm in sort of the same situation. I've been clean for 60 days and dont know if I passed my test. Could you tell me your height and weight (for reference please)?

Eustacian

I know for purposes of drug court adjudication, they generally take a urinalysis when you start probation. Then another at the 30 day mark. As long as your urine shows a marked decrease in metabolites, they assume you have been sticking to the no drug order. The drug courts expect you to have THC in your system, they just want to see the levels decreasing.

Buzzby

The cutoff on strip tests and GC/MS tests are equivalent. The strip tests look at more than 30 cannabinoids. The GC/MS looks only at THC's primary metabolite, hence the lower numeric value.

I suspect that the strip was faulty. Those things fail to give the correct result one time out of 100. That's why positives must be confirmed with GC/MS testing.

The longest period of abstinence before a positive reported here is 105 days. That guy was extremely obese and smoked like a chimney before he quit. If what you told us about your smoking history is accurate, it's far more likely that you got a false positive for some reason. The GC/MS will sort that out.

There's no reason for a retest. They only do that if your result is negative-dilute. Otherwise, the GC/MS is the final arbiter of the truth.

One of our members, Sec, is in the drug testing industry. She knows pretty much what there is to know about the subject, more than any MD would be likely to know. She'll probably chime in pretty soon.

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danknation

If the lab does show you positive for Marijuana it should still show a decrease in levels since your first UA. If you pissed dirty at the start of your probation because you were not yet clean your levels have since decreased and the test would show that.

I had an overly obese friend who was put on probation. He pissed dirty for around ~6 months but showed a steady and consistent decrease in levels. There were also a instances where she used a follicle test to be sure. The point here is, if all of your UAs show a decrease in your THC levels your probation officer should understand this. I can assure you that my friend and you are not the only people who have pissed dirty while not smoking.

KillerWeed420

imfreakingout you probably should have your doctor do a blood draw and do a liver and kidney test. Explain to the doctor what is going on and you're concerned that something may not be working right. Its not unusual for tokers to take over 60 days to get clean. But there could also be a medical reason for it.