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w00dy

ok so I'm really considering subbing now ... but I have a few questions. So suppose I get in the bathroom at the lab with my clean sample hidden and am ready to pour it. But since the lab staff will most likely be listening, I need to make it sound as if I actually pee in the toilet and then also pee in the cup. Since I've peed into test tubes before, I know that the pressure of the stream against the small container creates a distinguished noise. Obviously, when I pour the clean urine out of the shampoo bottle, there will be no such pressure and it will be all silent.

now, I thougth about peeing into the toilet and then holdling the urine in for about 3 seconds and resuming again to make it sound like I pissed in the container in those 3 seconds. But that will be just silence...no pressured-stream sounds. What do you suggest, N2?

Thanks,
w00dy.

 

IamN2pot

No one will be listening. Just pour the clean sample at temp and open the door to hand it to the collector. It's really that simple. N2

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Spoonfed

I just became a member of the sub club about an hour ago. I used the URN-Luck Quick Fix synthetic urine. I woke up today, smoked a joint with my girlfriend, mixed up the formula with the little crystals it comes with, then slapped it in the microwave for 8 seconds. After that I taped a couple heat pads to it and put Return of The Jedi. Halfway through the movie I took the heat pads off, and crotched the bottle with my two pairs of boxer briefs on (I ain't no wearer of tighty whities). They worked just fine. I was able to get in and out of my truck naturally without it slipping. Went in to do my test, signed the forms, yadda yadda yadda. Then, when I was pissing, I aimed it at the bowl with my pinky finger, and I poured the stuff into the cup a little bit over the line. That's when I noticed that this piss was bright yellow, and my piss was absolutely clear. I didn't have anything to eat yet today, but I've drank a lot of water. The temperature was just fine, it was like 95 degrees, but she looked at the toilet pretty fishy, and then she kept looking at my piss in the containers swishing it around and looking really close. But, then she let me go, and I'll get my answer back later today.

So, a little tip: If you're going to get piss tested and you're subbing, EAT SOMETHING, and don't drink much water. Or, try not to piss in the morning 'cause my toilet water ended up just light blue, not green, and I think down in the states they can get a bit more serious about it than here in Canada.

Also, has anybody tried drinking the synthetic urine? Some friends told me I should try it, but I figure that even though it's synthetic, it's still urine and it doesn't belong in my mouth. I wouldn't try tasting synthetic anthrax even if someone told me it was completely safe.

IamN2pot

"....mixed up the formula with the little crystals it comes with..."
Must be the Canada version. Congrats on the smooth sub and welcome to the club.
:!)
N2

SpliffStar

Another thing i learned was about thermometer that beep. I couldnt find a thermometer that didnt beep so if you cant either, practice using it trying to muffle the beeping or shut it off before it beeps repeatedly.

 

TheHerbalWay

Before I was going to sub I bought a bottle of xxtraclean by Detoxify. I hadn't smoked for a week but i was really worrying. But after reading the Sub posts on the forum I knew that subbing was in my future. I knew that it was a better choice for me because I felt at ease as soon as i decided on using a friends piss (maybe it had to do with the big fat bowl I smoked!!!)

Success!!! I am a member of the sub club. I was in the position where i had to get the clean sample from a friend then take the test 9 hours later. I used a 2oz shampoo bottle and put it in my crotch. I am a fat guy so the bottle weas well warmed though i did bring some hotpacks just in case. I doubled up on underwear to give a little added warmth. I checked the temp before the test and it was at about 98.5 degrees so I knew i would be okay.

At the test the woman told me to empty my pockets, so I did, then i went into the little room and started peeing in the toilet. I held it for a moment so it would sound like i was peeing in a cup then started again. As soon as I was done i pulled the bottle out of my crotch then just dumped it in the cup put the bottle back in my crotch and handed the women my sample. It was so easy!!! I didn't have to worry at all about the color of my urine or whether or not the drink worked just pour and pass. On the testing sheet there was a place that asked if the sample was between 90 and 100 degrees. No problem. I start training this week. Such a great job for me!

Just dont drop the bottle or the cap and don't set the urine down on the toilet since the toilet is so cold. Also don't worry about the color of your own piss compared to the sample the women didn't even look. You'll be fine. Have confidence!

Thank you N2!!!!!!!

TNTMagicHerb

Used N2's substitution method... 2 pairs of tighty whities, 2oz bottle of shampoo, and good old crotch heat. I will note that the bottle even after being rinsed 20+ times still smelled of shampoo(didnt make a difference). I will list my schedule I used the day of test.
1) Brother came over around 3pm and pissed in a cup for me.
2) Poured the urine into a 2oz bottle of shampoo (rinsed well).
3) Put on the 2 pairs of tighty whities and a pair of boxers for good measure.
4) Placed the sealed bottle of piss between my balls and anus @ 3:30pm
5) Went to the Dr's office and arrived at 3:50pm to fill out forms early.
6) Was instructed to wait in room and nurse would be back shortly (4:05pm)
7) Nurse showed up to fill me in on process, washed hands/emptied pockets and entered bathroom at 4:20 pm
8) Shut and locked door myself; Took the cap off quietly and poured urine into cup. (Was making noise when pouring so put my finger over the edge of bottle to muffle the noise of the pouring)
9) Finished off by pissing in the toilet and a little on the edge for good luck.
10) Temperature at time of exiting bathroom was 96º
11) Watched her spilt sample and signed my name about 5 times on the chain of custody form and I was out!

They just called about 30 mins ago to inform me that my brothers piss passed the test. DUH! So I hope this will help anyone still nervous about using sub method.

P.S. - Was shaking like a wet dog the whole time and still no questions asked.

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IamN2pot

Herbal and TNT, Congrats and welcome to our SubClub. 96 degrees...very good. Never fear a drug test again.
:!)
N2

imported_c_bo

Did the sub today for insurance policy. No problem as for subbing....unsupervised and didn't even check temp. I filled up the 2 tubes straight from my 98* bottle of syn U. That's all I had to return.

question is : can urine be to clean? Can syn be detected?

I'm a healthy man of 50 yrs
6' 210lb
Not alot of Dr visits

thanks

c_bo

jayjay777

so i got caught sellin' weed at skool... was put on probation for a long period of time, n i had to take random drug tests ( urine ). My first drug test was no problamo, i had money n i had been turned on to a product ( beverage ) that supposedly worked...i had smoked the day before the test n drunk the beverage approximatly 4 hours before my test. ACE. It was all good ( just incase anyone wants to know which product i passed with it is called "Q-carbo" Found in GNC for $50.00 but can be purchased off the internet for $15.00 [i got ripped off] ) anyways... i have another test in about 3 days n i dont have anymore money so i was thinking about trying to substitute. Seems like no big deal besides the fact of keeping it at a certain temperature, thank god i read something from N2, coz i was going to microwave it. But, even if u have something to measure the temperature with... u can only get it so warm by placing it in between ur crotch area. U think i would be cool if i had my little brother piss in a condom n keep it in my crotch? Would it be warm enough?