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Old 10-21-2004, 06:05 PM   #1
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Substitution was easier than pie! Followed the instructions and everything went smoothly. I was not observed and was even allowed to take my purse in with me (even though I didn't need it).

Thanks for the help! I would recommend this method above all others.
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Old 10-25-2004, 06:45 PM   #2
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Lightbulb Substitution Works

Substitution Works !!! Hello, everyone it has been one paranoid weekend. I like many didn't have much time to prepare for the drug test , not enough time to abstain (who wants to do that anyway) and produce my own clean urine for the Urine Police . So I logged onto this website and because of N2 , I gained the confidence to try this method. LEt me tell you first I have no faith in Urine Maskers, my urine would have burned a hole in the cup. Why turn in masked dirty urine when you can turn in clean urine. While at my last Dungeons & Dragons session, I informed my compatriots of my plight. 2 of the non drug using members of the group offered me their pee. I decided to take the guys who doesn't even drink. Before I left that night I had him urinate in a 12oz. bottle, took it home immediatly froze it. Then the next day (I live in Virginia) I went to a local Wal-Mart (Wal-Mart sucks BTW) and purchased 1 ace bandage, a pack of 6 *Hot Hands hand warmers by HeatMax. I purchased a 5 dollar human thermometer that beeps (no worries) and a 4 oz. bottle of purell hand sanitizer. I let out all of the Purell and made sure to rinse out the bottle thouroughly. After being sure my bottle was clean , I practiced with water first. Bring the water to just past body temp about 100 degrees approximately. Tape the hand warmers on EACH SIDE of the 4 oz. bottle ( I do not trust turning in a 2oz. sample it is too small and even if thats all they require they could just be a jerk and not accept it) . I then ace bandaged the bottle to the upper inside part of my leg. I wore baggy sweats , I could have done freaking cartwheels in the door and they wouldn't have know or seen it. When I got in my car I turned the heat all the way up until it was right uncomfortable. Kept my body temp inside my sweats up on the way to the lab so when I got there the sample had cooled but just enough to be at body temp thanks to the hand warmers and the high car temp. The hand warmers DO NOT warm the sample past body temp rather it keeps it from cooling rapidly. Went in , my hands were shaking. Signed forms, went in back, emptied pockets. Went into a bathroom, unobserved (it is illegal for them to watch you pee unless you are on probation) dumped my sample SLOWLY into the topless cup provided by them. Turned it in they didn't even cap it right away , you can see with you own eyes the variables that do not allow these labs to make very accurate temp readings. She poured it into two vials checking the temp tape each time , reading in between 90 & 100 , very small marks hard to read as I watched. I initialed my sample bottle. I left. THEY ACCEPTED THE PEE !!! DONE DEAL !!!! Why use a masker and sweat an extra week for nothing when you can be sure you passed instantly ??!! I do not recommend 2oz. bottles or putting it under your b**bs or armpits or anything too fancy. If you don't have sweatpants then buy some !!! I tried this with loose fitting jeans and it concealed even better than in the sweats but my jeans were dirty this morning. Put the bottle with an ace bandage on the upper inside of your leg and PRACTICE walking normally !!! I am here to say this method works !!!! If you are paranoid and its getting to you please please , stand up for yourself by having the CONFIDENCE to suceed !!! YOU are not the bad guy because you smoke a little weed !!!! Stop the paranoia now and prepare yourself for SUCCESS. You deserve to pass the test but remember if the sample is going to be sent to a lab, the maskers will not work. I also read on an earlier thread that someone turned in a 91 degree sample , if you do stuff like that you are sunk, i wouldn't even turn in a 94 degree sample, you need to practice but if you just get the temp to a little past body temp the warmers will make sure the cooling is not drastic, it will cool to or right around body temp. Practice PRactice Practice. Power be to you weedsmokers who are smart and confident enough in yourselves to stand up to this unfair system and BEAT IT !!!! BANE :33 Urine Labs : 0 its a final !!!!
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Old 11-02-2004, 09:54 PM   #3
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I went in to take a drug test yesterday using the sub methods that N2 gave, and everything went well. I got inside the rest room, but there were mirrors on the walls. I am not sure if they were watching thru two-way mirrors or what, but I gave them the clean pee. does anyone know if that is a method of observation? Or am I just being paranoid? Please, say I am being paranoid!!!!
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Old 11-04-2004, 08:24 PM   #4
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You are being paranoid, it is highly illegal to use two way mirrors to spy on poeple using the bathroom. I wouldn't use pee from a member of the opposite sex however.
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Old 11-06-2004, 09:53 AM   #5
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Im getting ready to go to a apprentiship school and they told us that every once in a while they will test. We're watched but the last time I went I took the Urinator and passed. What im wondering is If I have a 2 oz bottle and I keep it between my testicles and anus will it be at or within 1 degree of 98. I practiced tonight and the temp was only 96 but then again I had boxers on. I can't fit any hand warmers down there so its my only option. I wish I had the urinator still, sold it because i thought I was going to quit.
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Old 11-23-2004, 08:13 AM   #6
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Hell-o all! I have to re-test on Wednesday since I failed my first test using my own pee after using one of those flush products. Do no depend on the Fast and Clean did not work. It is guaranteed but to get a refund they will write for the results. Wouldn't that arouse suspicion? I would think it would. I am thinking of asking for a copy of the failed test to send in myself, or would that arouse suspicion also? Anyway, I found this site while researching drug testing methods. The doctor I spoke with told me second hand marijuana smoke would not have caused me to fail. I found a couple of sites that stated different. An ex-police officer told me that another cop who was present for the burning of weed that had been confiscated tested positive a few days after the burn. I have been practicing the methods suggested by N2 and am still not certain I am safe. I am going to use my daughter's urine. She will be going with me but we will stop across the street from the clinic and do the substitution. I tried putting my bottle in my bra and it cooled down very fast. Think my bottle is to thick. I tried to find non-lubricated condoms but everything was lubricated, that's why I got the travel bottle. My son has some socks that he used for football and I put another test in them and it cooled slower. I saw the ace bandage trick tonight/this morning and am going to try it. I have the job, I just need a negative drug test. I hope I get one cuz I already gave notice at my other job. I would hate to think about being unemployed. I am rather nervous aobut it cuz of the unemployment factor~ Anyway, just think of me and wish me luck. Thanx for all the advise I've found here!
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Old 11-23-2004, 09:06 PM   #7
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It's possible to fail from second hand smoke, but very difficult. Most exhaled smoke is tar and other chemicals, not THC. You would need alot to fail, but if your already close to the cut off, it could put you over. As for the cop, I find that real hard to believe. He probably stole some before the burning and smoked it, thus he could rightfully claim that the "burning caused him to fail". A lot of cops have compulsive lying problems, this has been proved time and time again through many psychological studies.
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I used a condom (rinsed, of course) and had a friend pee for me - I'm a gal and he was a guy. I just kept it in my panties until I got into the bathroom, worked like a charm and no freakouts about whether it would be clean or not. PHEW! I got a little pee on my hands, which was gross 'cos I couldn't wash 'em in the bathroom there, had to wait until I got into the hall, but I'm sure practice would have helped me avoid that.
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I used a condom (rinsed, of course) and had a friend pee for me - I'm a gal and he was a guy. I just kept it in my panties until I got into the bathroom, worked like a charm and no freakouts about whether it would be clean or not. PHEW! I got a little pee on my hands, which was gross 'cos I couldn't wash 'em in the bathroom there, had to wait until I got into the hall, but I'm sure practice would have helped me avoid that.
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Well, can anyone tell me why they don't just pee into the cup to allow the temp to register, dump it out and replace it with the synthetic, or donor urine?
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