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Old 05-27-2005, 01:54 AM   #121
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I had to take a pre-employment drug test for a Fortune 500 company (no BS) and have been clean for 30 days. However, it took me 8 weeks last time to get clean (150 days total and still didn't get that job) and I didn't want to chance it. I started practicing on Sunday night and at work on Monday. I used the 2oz bottle and the temps were always at 97-98 degrees.

I bought some dehydrated synthetic from the guys who make the Whizzinator. I figured that their stuff would work just fine. Anyone know differentlY?

Wednesday around 12:00 I mixed it up with 105 degree h20 and transferred it to the travel bottle and into my drawers it went. As a big guy, I didn't need the briefs and was able to hold it in place just fine... I tested the temp before I went to the Quest facility and it was at 98. I didn't get into the bathroom until 1:30 and did the substitution. I had just enough (60ml) as some of it leaked out of the top of the cap (no pun intended!). The temp when I gave it to the nurse was 97. The nurse had me split the sample myself and I was outta there. Now the waiting begins... I hope to hear back tomorrow but with the long weekend ahead, I may not know until Tuesday.

Suggestions: I found a measuring glass at Target that's essentially a 3oz shot glass but marked with ounces and milliters. I also bought a baby medicine dropper (think supersized eyedropper) and used it to transfer syn. urine to the travel bottle.

Thanks for the sub tips, N2. You da man!! I'm still on pins and needles about the synthetic stuff. Am I worrying too much? I would like to ease my anxiety with a little help from my sticky friend this weekend... Whaddya think?
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Old 05-28-2005, 12:04 AM   #122
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It's all good!! Received word today that I passed and I start next month. The dehydrated synthetic from whizzinator did the trick. This forum has been a Jah-send. I can't thank you enough for the tips, N2.
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Old 05-31-2005, 06:44 PM   #123
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N2:
I am going to have my wife give me a sample an hour before the test. Are you saying I should heat it up to 105 and then put it in my 2oz shampoo bottle? I am not understanding when and why to heat it up. Also if I see that it has gone below 90 there probably is no way to reheat once I am at the testing center. Sorry for my lack of understanding.
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Old 05-31-2005, 10:53 PM   #124
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Rock, your lack of understanding come from a lack of PRACTICE. Practice is key to success. If a fresh urine sample is crotched properly, the temp will never fall below 96. The reason to start PRACTICE with a bottle of 105 degree water is to show that the temp will drop to around 96 and stablize if you have it crotched right. The key is to practice with your delivery bottle and water. Then you'll know what to expect when you are keeping it warm for the drug test. Hope that helps. N2
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Old 05-31-2005, 11:23 PM   #125
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Have been practicing all day with water. I put a temp strip on bottle and crotched it for two hours, it stayed at 99 to 98 consistently. Will try one pair of tighty whiteys tomorrow with real urine. I will be ready on Friday both with the sub and dilute method. I am thinking positive thoughts. I will pass this test.
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Old 05-31-2005, 11:27 PM   #126
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it stayed at 99 to 98 consistently
Now you're cookin'. Those temps will pass every time. Let us know how it goes.
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I have been reading up and researching about different techniques to pass drug tests, mainly from this site. I havent smoked anything in over 2 weeks, and from what I've heard from friends, there is a possibility I will pass if I merely try the dilution technique. However, I need this job, and I would like to attempt subbing my piss with my friends. However, the job application says there will be a physical along with the drug screening. I was wondering if anyone ever had this same scenario, because i dont want a doctor examining me with a bottle of shampoo taped to my crotch. Do you think i should attempt to try and smuggle in some pee or just pray to the ganja gods and dilute this sample?
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DO both. Crotch and carry a human sample as the UA is drug test and physical. Also be diluted, in case you can't substitute. Hope that helps. N2
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Old 06-03-2005, 08:57 PM   #129
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However, the job application says there will be a physical along with the drug screening. I was wondering if anyone ever had this same scenario, because i dont want a doctor examining me with a bottle of shampoo taped to my crotch.
Hey BigCheese, I sweated this same thing. In my case (mine was for a gov. job) the physical was done by a nurse. She tested my eyes, ears, blood pressure, took medical history, bend a little. My pee test was before the physical. Best of luck, I smuggled and all was good.
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N2, please advise..

i am going to get a complete physical in about two weeks for pre-employment and i'm pretty sure that i am going to get tested.
on the day of the test i will have be abstaining for exactly 30 days. i'm am a chronic smoker.. about 3 joints a day of hashish, i am 150 pounds and i don't work out. been drinking a lot of green tea and water though since i quit.
i'm thinking of subbing but the problem is that i am travelling by plane for the interview and the urine i shall carry will be with me for 4 days before i have to submit it (no other choice). i can freeze it be it will surely thaw on the 4 hour trip on the plane, and them at the hotel i will probalby have to put it in a not so effifent refrigerator.

what are my chances of success, or will it definitely go bad?

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