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ruled_by_fear · 01-25-2006, 10:45 AM

I wonder why no-one around here has answered either one of my posts?? For God's sake if you have to send me a PM please do it that way. I know I mentioned being in law enforcement but not the kind that can get anyone in trouble, besides half of all law enforcement people smoke the wacky weed anyway!

**Sec** · 01-25-2006, 02:42 PM

The only way to know for sure is to try it out. carry a bottle around for about 4 hours in your designated location, then check the temp. It must be between 90 and 100 degrees farenheit (some forms ask for 92-98 degrees, but the temp stickers are usually always 90-100). Everyone is different and the term "My breasts are huge" is relative. A "C" cup is huge to some and small to others.

A true random system is always a number system. The random numbering can be done by hand, but usually it is done by computer. Everyone is assigned a number, using either a SSN, Employee # or some other assigned number. Then the computer is programmed to whatever percentage of employees the employer wants to have tested. Usually for Non-DOT it is 20% per year spread out monthly. That means the employer would test, if there were 100 employees, 1-2 employees per month. If the percentage is 50%, then there would be 4-5 people tested per month.

Hope this answers your questions.

ruled_by_fear · 01-25-2006, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sec3

The only way to know for sure is to try it out. carry a bottle around for about 4 hours in your designated location, then check the temp. It must be between 90 and 100 degrees farenheit (some forms ask for 92-98 degrees, but the temp stickers are usually always 90-100). Everyone is different and the term "My breasts are huge" is relative. A "C" cup is huge to some and small to others.

A true random system is always a number system. The random numbering can be done by hand, but usually it is done by computer. Everyone is assigned a number, using either a SSN, Employee # or some other assigned number. Then the computer is programmed to whatever percentage of employees the employer wants to have tested. Usually for Non-DOT it is 20% per year spread out monthly. That means the employer would test, if there were 100 employees, 1-2 employees per month. If the percentage is 50%, then there would be 4-5 people tested per month.

Hope this answers your questions.

Thank you so much, I have been carrying the the synthetic for awhile now and everytime I check it the temp. is 98. When I talk about huge I mean 44DD. Thanks for taking the time to answer me. The "directions" say you can heat and re-heat. Does that mean for the entire year that it is supposedly good for? Thank you again SEC.

lew scannon · 01-26-2006, 12:43 AM

Yes thats correct. The Quick Fix synthetic can be heated and reheated all the way to the end of its shelf life, which began on the date of manufacture that is printed in the upper-left corner of the enclosed instruction sheet.

Example: Batch 11C05 = Nov 2005.

Hope that helps a little.

ruled_by_fear · 01-26-2006, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lew scannon

Yes thats correct. The Quick Fix synthetic can be heated and reheated all the way to the end of its shelf life, which began on the date of manufacture that is printed in the upper-left corner of the enclosed instruction sheet.

Example: Batch 11C05 = Nov 2005.

Hope that helps a little.

Hey Lew thanks mine is Batch F11A-05, so whats the "F" before the 11A-05. I hope this means good till Nov. of 06. Thanks!

lew scannon · 01-26-2006, 10:47 PM

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Hey Lew thanks mine is Batch F11A-05, so whats the "F" before the 11A-05

The F digit is a new one for me. None of my two QF batches have an F in its code. They both begin with the numerical month digit in its code. My latest batch carries an 8A-05 code, which denotes an Aug 2005 manufacturing date.

Id have to do some investigating on that F digit.

ruled_by_fear · 01-27-2006, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lew scannon

The F digit is a new one for me. None of my two QF batches have an F in its code. They both begin with the numerical month digit in its code. My latest batch carries an 8A-05 code, which denotes an Aug 2005 manufacturing date.

Id have to do some investigating on that F digit.

Thanx Lew, have a good nite!

manatee54 · 01-27-2006, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by UDontKnowMeBut

Thanks for the quick reply, Manatee. I've only ordered (not yet used) the synthetic urine itself, from Puck, so far. That said, the Number 1 looks very appealing and less cumbersome vs. having a 2oz bottle in my crotch. I'll likely spring for the Number 1, but it would be a shame not to use the synthetic I've already ordered (should be here on Monday.)

How about usage? I notice the directions say that it isn't refillable - do you just get a new one each time, or have you found another method for reuse? One is good for 2 tests, so I reordered after using up th first one.
Do you have a trick for the clips? They are very easy to use, no tricks needed, as they are silent.

Are the heat packs reliable? Yes, if you shake it up, and apply it right, and wear the belt with urine next to your belly. Wear it for at least an hour, and then when you put it in the cup, zip up, and get it back to person.. my temps ranged from 94-98 on all 4 tests.
I've heard different things about their reliablity to not get too hot, or remain the right temperature. You have a temp strip on the belt, so you'll know...also, if you get a cup with a temp strip on it, I piss in it, wait for temp to rise, dump it good, and then put in the synthetic.
Also, any idea if pre-employment tests are typically observed these days? No they are not observed, at least my 4 weren't.

My last two were not, but the last one was almost five years ago. Any hints, tips, tricks, blow-by-blow details appreciated.

Thanks again for the reply, take care.

Relax, cause you're giving the real thing..... I piss in toilet, while I get clips ready, and to create noise.... then I put the synthetic in.

glock9 · 01-27-2006, 07:48 PM

the pre-emp test i just took was not observed. and the cool part was that the light switch also turned on the fan so i didn't have to try so hard to be quite. the cup had a temp strip on it. here's what i did.. hope it helps

1. got sub from wife (hope no gender issues come up)
2. put in 2 oz bottle.. placed in bowl of hot water (110 F) for about 10 min
3. crouched it on the way there (20 min. away)
4. read temp in parking lot: 98.7 F
5. signed papers, etc.etc. waited 15 min. (meanwhile crossed legs tightly -i'm a skinny guy with little body heat)
6. pissed in toilet; sub in cup
7. temp read 95 or so
8. waiting for results.

hope that helps. i know it comes up alot but for added confidence will some one tell me for a fact that gender is not a problem. thx!

FXjohn · 01-27-2006, 11:30 PM

I passed two weeks ago using a woman's urine.

You should be "golden", you planned your sub out intelligently.

01-25-2006, 10:45 AM	#381
ruled_by_fear New Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 8 Grams: 760.90 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Ignoring my questions??????? I wonder why no-one around here has answered either one of my posts?? For God's sake if you have to send me a PM please do it that way. I know I mentioned being in law enforcement but not the kind that can get anyone in trouble, besides half of all law enforcement people smoke the wacky weed anyway!

01-26-2006, 12:43 AM	#384
lew scannon Sr. Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 684 Grams: 5,760.04 Groans: 20 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 31 Thanked 113 Times in 72 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Thats right Yes thats correct. The Quick Fix synthetic can be heated and reheated all the way to the end of its shelf life, which began on the date of manufacture that is printed in the upper-left corner of the enclosed instruction sheet. Example: Batch 11C05 = Nov 2005. Hope that helps a little.

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01-25-2006, 02:42 PM	#382
Sec Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 6,344 Grams: 41,342.03 Groans: 15 Groaned at 29 Times in 24 Posts Thanks: 686 Thanked 1,545 Times in 957 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	The only way to know for sure is to try it out. carry a bottle around for about 4 hours in your designated location, then check the temp. It must be between 90 and 100 degrees farenheit (some forms ask for 92-98 degrees, but the temp stickers are usually always 90-100). Everyone is different and the term "My breasts are huge" is relative. A "C" cup is huge to some and small to others. A true random system is always a number system. The random numbering can be done by hand, but usually it is done by computer. Everyone is assigned a number, using either a SSN, Employee # or some other assigned number. Then the computer is programmed to whatever percentage of employees the employer wants to have tested. Usually for Non-DOT it is 20% per year spread out monthly. That means the employer would test, if there were 100 employees, 1-2 employees per month. If the percentage is 50%, then there would be 4-5 people tested per month. Hope this answers your questions.

01-27-2006, 07:48 PM	#389
glock9 New Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 12 Grams: 761.65 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	the pre-emp test i just took was not observed. and the cool part was that the light switch also turned on the fan so i didn't have to try so hard to be quite. the cup had a temp strip on it. here's what i did.. hope it helps 1. got sub from wife (hope no gender issues come up) 2. put in 2 oz bottle.. placed in bowl of hot water (110 F) for about 10 min 3. crouched it on the way there (20 min. away) 4. read temp in parking lot: 98.7 F 5. signed papers, etc.etc. waited 15 min. (meanwhile crossed legs tightly -i'm a skinny guy with little body heat) 6. pissed in toilet; sub in cup 7. temp read 95 or so 8. waiting for results. hope that helps. i know it comes up alot but for added confidence will some one tell me for a fact that gender is not a problem. thx!

01-27-2006, 11:30 PM	#390
FXjohn Jr. Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 239 Grams: 1,940.55 Groans: 5 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	I passed two weeks ago using a woman's urine. You should be "golden", you planned your sub out intelligently.

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