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Old 04-05-2006, 10:23 PM   #451
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If I were to get some pee from my friend the night before how would I store it? In the refrigerator and then heat it up in the morning in a cup of hot water? Or freeze it? At most it would be 12 hours before use.
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Old 04-17-2006, 01:31 AM   #452
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took the test several months ago, but used the substitution method.

i received clean piss from a friend the evening before. stored the urine in the freezer overnight. the urine was stored in a water bottle, which i placed in a sink of hot water until thawed. then poured piss into a small 2oz travel bottle of shampoo. (well rinsed bottle, but did still have smell of shampoo). had the urine at 107 degrees when i left for the test center.

when the sample cooled to 101* i placed it in my tighty whiteys. this was late summer in fla and in a car with no ac. so retaining sample heat was no problem. got to the test center still reading 101* went in, building was freezing (my guess temp in mid 60s). sat in there for about 20 minutes waiting with legs closed tightly, then stepped outside to the car to check sample temp. (told my girlfriend to tell the lady i was smoking a cigarette outside if she called me). checked it it read 98* went in and took test. sample registered at 95* when i handed it too her. was shaking like a cold wet dog the entire time. it was very easy and i highly recommend substitution. i passed.


thanks everyone that provided tips and advice!
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Old 04-18-2006, 06:52 PM   #453
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I have read all kinds of ways for men to smuggle urine in, but not too many from women. So I decided to share my story: I was laid off from my job with absolutely no notice, so I knew passing a drug test was going to be my only problem. I smoke very heavily on a daily basis and have done so for about 6 years now. As I posted previously, I tried one of those Q-Carb drinks and failed miserably a couple of years ago, so that was definitely out of the question. I started looking for jobs that didn't drug test, and let me tell you, those jobs are few and far between. Even some restaurants drug test these days!

Anyway, I went to fill an application out at one place, and they immediately interviewed me and decided to hire me. The guy actually wanted me to go right to the drug test, but I told him I had another interview that day and probably wouldn't be able to make it until the next morning. At this point, I had briefly thought about substitution, but was pretty scared about being observed. I thought about just blowing off the job, but it was a really good opportunity. That's when I found this site. I read a ton of posts and started feeling more comfortable with the idea of substituting. The only problem was I really didn't have time for practicing. My sister-in-law doesn't smoke, except maybe a few times a year, so I decided to ask her for the favor. It turned out that she had actually just smoked 2 hits of cryp 2-3 weeks ago. I decided that she had a much better chance of passing than I did, so I had her pee the night before the test. Also, I had been reading all of the posts on here, and it seemed like the chances of her urine passing the test were pretty high, considering she rarely smokes and only took 2 hits.

I then took it home, covered, and put it in the fridge until the morning. I had thought about pouring it into a condom for the test, but was afraid that the condom is too thin and would break on me. I decided to use a surgical latex glove that I just happened to have(boyfriend is studying to be paramedic). I tied off all of the fingers on the glove, except for the thumb. In the morning, I poured the urine into the glove and tied the top of the glove off. I made sure it was secure and was not going to leak anywhere. I then filled a cup with very hot water(not boiling) and stuck the glove of urine in it until it warmed up. I then dried the glove, and placed it in my bra. Since my boobs are not huge, I decided to pad the other breast so that I still looked even with the glove in the one side. In order to pop a hole in the glove, I secured a small safety pin to the inside of the top of my jeans.

When I got to the test site, I just walked in and acted confident, making small chat with the woman there. She took me to a private bathroom where I was UNOBSERVED! I was able to easily remove the glove from my bra, poke it with the safety pin, and fill up the cup(In order to avoid getting urine on me, I held the thumb up in the air so that all of the urine dripped into the rest of the glove. I then poked my hole in the thumb and was able to pour everything out without any of it touching me.) I then wrapped the glove in a few paper towels and put it back in my bra. Secured the safety pin back in my jeans, and was good to go. She marked the temperature was correct, had me initial the vial, and told me to have a good day. I couldn't believe just how easy subbing really was. Thankfully after reading all of the success storeies on this site, I had the courage to go through with it and will start my new job tomorrow. I hope this helps some of you girls out. Just remember to be calm and don't arouse suspicion. The chances are that you are not going to be obsverved just for an employment test, so don't worry so much!
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Old 04-18-2006, 09:35 PM   #454
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I just got a call from my PO (due to being on probation for possession, less than a bowls worth, and losing my driver's license for 6 months as a result). My test came back with no issues, as I expected. A friend of mine gave me a clean specimen that I in return gave to "the man". The tests that I took as part of my probation never required me to be subject to providing observed urine samples, they just told me to go into a room and do my thing. To be honest, I don't want to say what jurisdiction I'm in because "the man" may change their ways if they see this, and I don't want to screw things up for anyone else in my situation. So, thanks to all who posted here, with so much adivce on how to get by in these types of situations. Sub when you can, I'm now a converted life long member! One other note, I did the dillution method as described by N2 and would more than likely have passed, I did that as a backup just in case. I did a drug test the day I was to go in and passed a home test, so...my guess is I would have been fine. Good luck to all!

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Old 04-19-2006, 11:39 PM   #455
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im taking a test soon and has planned on diluting but after reading some stories i now believe i would be stupid to not sub if its possible.
i looked at some of the commerical subbing devices, especially the urinator. while it would give me plenty of piece of mind, $150 is kind of high priced. if i was so to sub using just a shampoo bottle and a heat pack or whatever, how do you monitor temp when u actually sub? people talk about "temperature strips" but im a little unclear on what exactly they are and where i might get something like that
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Old 04-20-2006, 02:42 AM   #456
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Highyas... well to put it simple i had to do a drug test for employment so i did some research on how to get clean and came across this forum .....wow what a relief this subbing sounds pretty dang good.So without any practice and from what i read i used the body heat method to keep it warm(in the underwear)and when i went to test i used my urine to heat up the strip and the temp. went to 96 after bout 1 minute then i got a lil antsy and dumped it out (did not wipe it) and put my girlfriends urine in there and it went down to 94 so i was like coooooooool. The collector took my sample and started testing so everything came out real goooooood. I am now employed.
Oh ya and this was a DOT test.

P.S. I am also on standard probation and where i am from if you piss diluted it goes against you as a dirty or positive just a lil info i hope will be usefull to someone. Oh ya and thanks again for yalls info.
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Old 04-24-2006, 04:07 PM   #457
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yeah... i have the same prob today! do they have to tell you if they're gonna watch you? i have quick fix but I just don't wanna use synthetic if they're somebody on the other side of a double-sided mirror and i dont know about it. then i will definitely fail!!!
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yeah... i have the same prob today! do they have to tell you if they're gonna watch you? i have quick fix but I just don't wanna use synthetic if they're somebody on the other side of a double-sided mirror and i dont know about it. then i will definitely fail!!!
No, they do not have to give you advanced notice if they require observation.
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Old 04-24-2006, 07:57 PM   #459
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can i use my wife's urine? She is totally clean. I used everday for a couple of years and stopped over a week ago. what methods should i try? i am desparate.
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Old 04-24-2006, 08:22 PM   #460
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can i use my wife's urine? She is totally clean. I used everday for a couple of years and stopped over a week ago. what methods should i try? i am desparate.
If your not going to be observed. Yes you can.
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