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Old 04-24-2006, 09:14 PM   #461
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Thanks for making my day. i was laid off without warning from a managment job and I can't afford to not get this job. difference is around 10k to 15k a year. anybody else confirming would be helpful. my wife is a little skeptical.
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Old 04-24-2006, 11:09 PM   #462
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Default Just a couple of pointers please

Hi fellow tokers, i am in the same situation as most that have posted on this thread of having to take a Drugs and Alcohol screening, i also have a physical at the same time, my problem is this - i dont know which will come first (dont want to be standing there with a shampoo bottle poking out when my medical takes place) if this is random then i'll have to take my chances as ive no chance of passing through dilution, another question is about the forehead thermometers, can i just tape it to the shampoo bottle or will it stop reading after a while, also after the switch can i put the shampoo bottle into my pocket or will that be checked, i am fairly confident of getting temp right as have practiced and temp seems to drop from 100 to 94 in about an hour and a half although i am sticking it right between my ass cheeks (cant get it to stay under my balls) please help if you can and thanks for this great info i've allready been able to find myself on this superb thread,


ps this is a U.K based dot test, anybody know if its different to U.S
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Old 04-25-2006, 01:05 AM   #463
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Hi fellow tokers, i am in the same situation as most that have posted on this thread of having to take a Drugs and Alcohol screening, i also have a physical at the same time, my problem is this - i dont know which will come first (dont want to be standing there with a shampoo bottle poking out when my medical takes place) if this is random then i'll have to take my chances as ive no chance of passing through dilution, another question is about the forehead thermometers, can i just tape it to the shampoo bottle or will it stop reading after a while, also after the switch can i put the shampoo bottle into my pocket or will that be checked, i am fairly confident of getting temp right as have practiced and temp seems to drop from 100 to 94 in about an hour and a half although i am sticking it right between my ass cheeks (cant get it to stay under my balls) please help if you can and thanks for this great info i've allready been able to find myself on this superb thread,


ps this is a U.K based dot test, anybody know if its different to U.S
United States: The physical must come before a drug test. Be sure to give only 45-60 milliliters (1-1/2 to 2 ounces).
The forehead temps will keep working as long as they do not get wet.
Your coat pockets will not be checked. You will be asked to empty your pants, shirt pockets, remove coats, sweaters, hats, etc..

Sorry, I cannot say about in the UK, I have never had cause to do research or a test there.
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Old 04-25-2006, 03:55 PM   #464
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Default thanks sec but need more advice

Thanks for that sec, but this has raised a new problem for me, how do i get my sub urine into the urinal if i have to take my medical first?, is there any chance i will have to drop my boxers for any reason during the physical and after the urine test can i just put the bottle into my pocket or should it go back between the cheeks?, test in less than 24 hours and begining to brick it.

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You might be able to substitute during a DOT Physical for the Pre-employment drug test and you might not. It all depends on when or if the Doctor asks you for your specimen. There are two samples you must give. One for medical testing, one for drug testing. Our clients' applicants go to the medical facility for the physical and then come to our collection facility for the drug test (or vice-versa). Some employers have the doctor at the medical facility do the entire thing.


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Above is a website that spells out exactly what is required to be done regarding a DOT Physical. You can read through and decide for yourself if you would be able to sub or not. Also read the regulation before this one and the one after.(49CFR, Part 391.41; 49CFR, Part 391.45). If you are going to have a DOT regulated job, you should at least know the requirements.
Above is a post (#71) from the "From the Tester" sticky. Follow the link. It will tell you exactly what is done for a US DOT physical.
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Old 04-28-2006, 11:35 PM   #466
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Old 05-17-2006, 06:12 PM   #468
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Default Freezing my own urine

Haven't smoked for 6months+ and passed several tests in the interim with no extraordinary precautions so I am certain there is nothing lingering.

So I have clean urine now. I filled two ziplock sandwich bags about halfway with my own clean and popped them right in the freezer (I'm estimating this is enough to provide four or five substitutions). Are there any precautions I should have taken in preparing them to be frozen? For example, I read somewhere on this board that the samples should be frozen in airtight containers and I don't think my ziplock bags were vacume sealed or anything.

So basically, what will disqualify my frozen urine from being legitimate? Any special guidelines for preparing my own urine for freezing? Whats the problem with thawed urine "going bad" after 8+hours?

I am still clean so if I need to do anything "right" I want to know now. My last exam is next tuesday and I plan to blaze outrageous afterwards. Thanks all.
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Old 05-17-2006, 07:01 PM   #469
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i fin d that toe warmers keep the sample at about 100 degrees they come in pairs but i only use 1 after taking the warmer off and crotching the sample, stays about right for almost an hour
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more info on toe warmers the avg temp is 100 degrees almost perfect warmers made by grabber have adhesive on them to stick to sample
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