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Old 08-07-2006, 11:49 PM   #591
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YAYYYY.

i think i passed. i'll type a more detailed reply later, but i waited for over 2 hours and the quick fix was still at 96 degrees with no heating pad. woot woot. i am "clear to start work" and the quick fix was sent to quest diagnostics for a 10 panel test that i'm sure it will pass.

thanks so much to everyone for your super helpful advice.

i'm off to smoke a delicious joint =D
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Old 08-11-2006, 09:58 PM   #592
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Default Thanks for a great site...

After 25+ years with the same company, they have recently announced that they will start random drug testing of all employese, supposedly because our customers were demanding we had an "actively managed drug policy". No more information was given.

I have read this entire sticky and will be ordering Quickfix 4.0.

It is a small company, so I am sure they will be telling us were to go to give the sample if we are selected. My question is how much time will I be given before I have to show up at the test site. I'd like to have time to stop by the house (20 minutes one way from office) to avoid having to keep the quickfix at the office.

BTW, I think that it is ridiculus that the government has allowed this to be legal-it is a clear violation to the 4th amendment. Thank God for people like N2, SEC, Grilled Meats, and many more for all the helpful posts.
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Keep the Quick Fix in your car. IF no car, tape it to the bottom surface of your desk, at the back interior of the drawer. Someone would have to really be snooping bad to find it there. Just don't forget to take it with you when you move up to that corner office upstairs.
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BTW, I think that it is ridiculus that the government has allowed this to be legal-it is a clear violation to the 4th amendment.
Leave the contribution at the door, thank you very much....no charge for the info.....

By the way, we have sister sites called the 420 lounge and the gardenscure, you should check them out before you leave, their at the top of the page to click on, easy to find, and I'm sure you'll enjoy the visits....

Thanks for sharing your pissing experiences with us, and have a nice day.....


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Old 08-15-2006, 11:28 AM   #595
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Default Heres one for yall

First let me say I wish I would have found this site sooner, tons of great info!

Second I use to be against drugs (all drugs) and about 4 years ago I met a buddy and he turned me on to "GREENBUD" I have been smoking faithfully every since. I am a big guy 6' 250lbs and I am a Truck Driver I never smoke while I work, only when I get home in the evenings and week-ends I dont drink becuase I suffer from "10' tall and bullet proof" when I drink and end up in trouble so I gave it up along time ago. I am naturally an "on-edge" person and it runs in the family my cousin was put on PROSAC! The weed mellows me out and puts me on an even playing field.

Anyway one day I was minding my own biz sitting in traffic on the freeway it was raining and another trucker was not paying attention and locked his brakes and jacked knifed his rig sliding right into the back of my rig and me!

The highway patrol was called out and I had to radio in to my company they insisted I had to take a drug test ! Even though I was not at fault at all they said it was a requirement. I freaked out! I had a sweet job Mon-Fri I hauled local and the pay was BIG! I freaked the F--- out and called my wife who was at work in the next town over I told her to hit the head shop and buy the DETOXIFY (IT DONT WORK!!!!!!!) she left work early met me on the side of the road and I drank it following the directions even killing some time (1 hour) I head over to the clinic and piss a week later I get a call saying I failed the test and was let go by my employer! I was pissed at "the system" and my employer my emotions ran wild I came to the conclussion I had to give it up I did not want to I love the herb! anyway after not smoking for 3 months I hit the job search faxed out about 4 resumes.

2 days later I get a great job offer not a worry in the world I go take the test on a Monday as of Wend. no results but I get a second job offer that day (Wend) I interview and got the job I was suppose to start on the following Monday provided I can pass a drug test this second company send me to the same clinic I had gone to for my crash test and the Monday test its wend. and I go in with no worries they made me wait like 3 hours then I took the test . A week goes by and still no results from either of the 2 test then another week later they call me and inform me I failed both test for both companies!!!! I am fairly new to the pot thing and did not know it can stay in your sytem for up to 6 months!

I broke and smoked a bowl after that and have been smoking again

So needless to say I have been unemployed for about 4-5 months and my savings are running low so its time to bite the bullet and start the job search again I have no choice now but to use the sub method I have a 6 year old son so clean piss is not a problem for me(and no I see nothing wrong with it I am just geting alittle back of what I bought for him,I feed him and give him drink )

I plan on buying the Unfilled Substitution System $20.00 (Fill-Your-Own)

I had a few questions

1. What if I go in and they make me wait 3 hours again will the heating pads keep it warm enough ? Its a Unfilled 3 x 7 bag made of clear medical grade polymer. Each bag has approximately 24 inches of trimmable tubing bonded to the bag during it's manufacturing. I plan on placing it between my inner thigh and my jewels (remember I am big guy, alot of body heat) or will I need the heating pads at all?

2. Do they keep drug testing results on file? Meaning I will probally be sent back to the same clinic for the area I live.

3. If they do will they perform more testing then the DOT requires becuase of my past failed test (pick on me)?

4. Is there a way to carry good piss with out it going bad like in a lunch box with a cold pack it wont freeze it but keep it cool and how long can I carry it? Being a DOT driver they can pull us in at anytime. or would it just be better to carry the synthetic urine powder and mix it before I go if they call me in on a random?

I really would apprecieate the help. I am a husband and father of 2 and have always been a good provider. It pisses me off that these lame coporate a holes dig into our personal lives like they do. Yes I can see why, but come on there are more drunks in the world that are more deadly then a stoner I can function just fine you would not even know I smoked it unless I told ya.

Thanks in advance and again AWSOME site!
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Old 08-15-2006, 01:29 PM   #596
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I am fairly new to the pot thing and did not know it can stay in your sytem for up to 6 months!

I plan on buying the Unfilled Substitution System $20.00 (Fill-Your-Own)

I had a few questions

1. What if I go in and they make me wait 3 hours again will the heating pads keep it warm enough ? Its a Unfilled 3 x 7 bag made of clear medical grade polymer. Each bag has approximately 24 inches of trimmable tubing bonded to the bag during it's manufacturing. I plan on placing it between my inner thigh and my jewels (remember I am big guy, alot of body heat) or will I need the heating pads at all? 2. Do they keep drug testing results on file? Meaning I will probally be sent back to the same clinic for the area I live.
3. If they do will they perform more testing then the DOT requires becuase of my past failed test (pick on me)?
4. Is there a way to carry good piss with out it going bad like in a lunch box with a cold pack it wont freeze it but keep it cool and how long can I carry it? Being a DOT driver they can pull us in at anytime. or would it just be better to carry the synthetic urine powder and mix it before I go if they call me in on a random?

Thanks in advance and again AWSOME site!
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Insteadofprosac! Prosac sounds like some super athletic cup! It is prozac just for future reference! I will help you only if you promise to stay out of the fast lane when I am trying to pass your rig because I'm running late and trying to make it up on the road! Ok, I will still help you but that's just wishful thinking! Pot can stay in your urine for 30-60 days easily and for some obese people even up to 100 days. If someone still had it in their urine for 6 months that would be a new record. Hair testing can go back 90 days or so. Anyway, first question about the heat. If you heat the sample up to 100 degrees or so your body heat should keep it at temperature for as long as you have it stashed up against your body. The heating pads really help the most when the sample is cold and you need it to come up to temp in an hour or so. Your body heat usually can bring up a cold sample to temp if you have enough time. Just fill your fake bladder with an equivalent amount of water as your sample and do some test runs using a thermometer. Second and third questions, will they have you on file and do more testing, probably not. That sounds like it would violate a couple of different things to do so and it really doesn't matter. You have clean piss so screw em. Finally, if you want to keep a standyby I would just buy some Quickfix on ebay. It is cheap and has a long shelf life and that will be much easier than trying to keep real urine at a cool temperature for a couple of weeks, throwing it out, and getting a new sample and doing it all over again. If it isn't frozen, the urine will only stay for a week or two. Keep a heat pad and the quickfix handy and you will have one less thing to worry about.
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Old 08-15-2006, 11:07 PM   #597
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It is regulation that when there is an accident where one or more vehicles (due to the accident) need to be towed or there is medical treatment away from the scene by a participant of the accident, and you are given a citation, you need to be given a drug test. -or- if there is a fatality (it doesn't matter if you were given a citation or not) you would be required to have a drug test.

You didn't mention that you were given a ticket, but employers also can adopt stricter policies and test each and every incident whether the DOT requires it or not.

It is illegal for a company to give drug test results to another company without your expressed written permission. That being said, your new company will need to write to your old company for your drug testing records. They will have you sign an authorization for this. If you refuse to sign, and they cannot get the records, they cannot hire you for a truck driving position. If there are no records, or you have not participated in a random pool consortium for 6 months, they will have to give you a pre-employment drug test before they can hire you.

If you have failed a drug test for another employer and have not completed a Substance Abuse Professional's recommended treatment program and evaluation, passed a return to duty and follow-up testing program, then they also cannot hire you as a truck driver. It is up to you to provide the new company with the documentation that you have passed all the above requirements before they can hire you.

Sorry man, it looks like you messed up in the driving industry, unless you can find an employer who is not following regulations, you might get lucky.
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I welcome myself to the SUB-Club. It's so easy.. listen to the people on the forum and have no worries! seriously.
Today I had a pre-employment drug screening for the new company Im going to be working for. No sweat. I had already planed on the company giving me a drug test before I start, so I grabed some clean urine from a buddy of mine a week and a half ago. I put the urine in a 2oz Shampoo/Soap bottle and threw the bottle in the freezer until today. I got the call from company today around Mid-Day. They said my interview went well and they would love to have me work for the company but I would need to pass a simple drug screening.
As planed I took my friends urine out of the freezer and put the whole bottle under running hot water. It took about 2 minutes to unfreaze fully. I then cheked the temperature with a $3.99 thermometer. It read 91.7F. Good enough, I put it under my crotch with two pair of whitie tighties on and sit down at my comp to browse marijuana.com 15 minutes I check the temp and its at 95.1. I think great, its warming up. So I throw it back into the dirty cave and sit down and wait another 15 mins and check the temp again. This time it was 96.4. Awesome, time to head to the company. I jump in my ride, head to the company (took about 25 mins) and get the application I need for the drug test center. The person states that the place is a couple miles down the road and gave me directions.
I jump back in the car and head down to the testing center. (By now 45min total had passed on the way, so bottle to this point had been under my crotch for 1 hour and 15 minutes) I walk in casualy, sign in, and take a seat. Took about a total of 5 mins for the person to call me back to the bathroom. I was told to clear out my pockets and that I could not flush the toilet or use the sink. They then had me wash my hands with sanitizer, handed me the cup and said I had 4 minutes to finish. I walked in the bathroom closed the door behind me, pulled the bottle of urine out of my drawers and dumped it in the cup. The thermometer on the side read around 95 degrees Fahrenheit. I then put the bottle back under my crotch, ziped up, walked out of the bathroom and gave the person my bottle. They looked at it, read the temp, and marked down that it was between 90-100F. I signed the forms and walked out a sub-club member.
Thanks N2 for the great post! I followed your method exactly and it worked out great! I did not use anything to warm the bottle of urine once I heated it up other then my body heat. I was not supervised and the urine was the perfect temperature. No problems at all Thanks to all the people who have cotributed their story on subing to this topic. Keep on smokin
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I just love it when people post how easy it is to read and follow simple directions.
Look Ma!, No stupid questions!!!

Nice job and good planning.
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Guy and girls I really need your help. Here's the specs: 5' 8" 200lbs. I've been a chronic smoker for 12 years. In the last month I've cut down to about 3 times a week. I just got a job offer on Thursday and have to take a test Wednesday. I have 2 days days without and by Wed it will be my fifth day. I only smoked Wed & Friday of this week. I have the whizzinator and passed with flying colors in the past! Here's the catch.... It's probably going to be a complete physical. I have no way of stashing the whizz when they do the hernia check. At this point I'm at a loss.... I can't decide between sub and dilution. I lost several jobs trying those "drinks" on the market. Here are the only options I can think of:
1. Use the Whizz with two pairs of boxers and pull both down when the check my sack or leave it with my clothes when I put the gown on.
2. Use a small container instead.
3. Dilution.
What do you guys think? I'm desperate for help in this situation as this is the best job offer I've ever had. I'm pretty sure it's a complete physical because the job involves being on the road as a computer tech (a lot of driving/lifting PC's). All they told me was I'd have to make a trip to the doctor, I'm suppose to get the offer/paperwork on Tuesday.
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