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BigGreen

If you are going to use this method please do practice. I tried this my first time subbing(before the finding of this board) without alot of practice and my sample was low temp by the time it all came out of the small hole I had popped in the balloon. I was frantic trying to get that temp strip on the cup to rise by cupping it in my hands but it never seemed to move. Finally I made my fatal mistake and decided I could splash a very small amount of my own urine in the cup to warm it up. what's a tiny mid stream splash going to do people use dillution to pass afterall. Well the temp went up alright I thought I was in the clear. Turns out I must have had a very high concentration of THC in my urine at the time because I failed with it coming back at 46ppm. It was an airline job and their cutoff was 15.

I have passed two others since then and since finding this board. Both times I used the bottle in an ace bandage with a hothands hand warmer. Once with my sons urine another short notice one with QF4. It's so easy I will never do my own peeing in a cup again.

Final note for those worrying about a physical at the same time. I've done this twice as well. I went in there and told them it would be best if they did the urine test first as I had been waiting to go for quite a while and have a hard time going under pressure. They said both times no problem and that was their typical procedure anyway. Afterwards for 1 they put me in the waiting room before the physical and I asked to go to the bathroom(used the public by the waiting room) for #2 and tossed my bottle(hand sanitizer) in the trash there. The other I was placed in an exam room right away and asked to change into the gown that time I pocketed everything bottle, bandage, and warmer in my street clothes. No sweat doc comes in does the exam, leaves I get dressed and am out of there.

Hope I could ease the anxiety for some out there

 

Chiller

Ok here's my story. First, lots of thanks to Sec3 for the advice. I hope my story helps others.

First I tried one of those flushing drinks after only 3 days from doing the herb. I was a habitual user. Mine was an unsupervised labcorp test. It came back dilluted and had to take another test. Talk about stress. I just retested today (7 days since my last smoke). Heres what I did...

I prepared for both using dillution and substition not knowing if I was going to be witnessed this time. First, I tested my first urination of the day with an over the counter at home test to see if I could pass. Nope, so plan B. My biggest concern was coming back dilluted again cause I know the new job would be history. So my plan was not to be too diluted. The night before I drank 5000mg of efervesent creatine from twin labs with 10 oz water. First thing in the mourning I drank some coffee, waited 20 min. then drank another 5000mg of creatine. No food. Over the next 2 hrs I took 10 times the daily dose of B12 liquid vitamin to help with the color. I tried not to drink any more water only to replace what I pissed. That was my dillution plan. Test time was 12 noon.

Now for the substition part. I decided to use a freinds clean urine and put in the Quick Fix 4.0 bottle with the heat pad. Has anyone ever failed using the urine provided in the package? I didn't know and didn't want to take the chance. The damn thing almost fell down my leg when walking in lab! Secure better next time. I also bought a cheap electronic thermometer and tested it before walking in. Wanted to make sure the piss was hot not just the strip. Measured 96 degrees, couldn't get any higher and took almost an hour . Think will use a stronger hand warmer next time. I choose this over the ballon becuase it was quick to fill the bottle and less chance of leaking.

Thank goodness nobody watched me go. So I did the substition and that went fine. Although I didn't have to use my piss, I pissed in the toilet cause I had to go so bad and didn't want to raise suspision either. The color was good there too but glad I didn't have to take the chance. Still I wander if the dillution method I used would have passed.

So has everyone had good results using the urine that comes in Quick fix because on short notice that would be the most convienient, and its the perfect color?

Peace out!

Sec

We have had no reports that I know of someone failing a drug test who has used the synthetic Quick Fix 4.0.

Glad you got the second chance. Good luck with the new job.

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raaaaaaah

quik fix worked for me like a charm.

wonder what happen? maybe it was an old batch?

raaaaaaah

oh and one more thing, regardless of ur gender, the quik fix (for me) got to the perfect temperature by just using free body heat, it took about an hour.

i am an advocate for the sub method and for quik fix bc it was so damn easy and it has been tested over and over again by hundreds of members on this sight!!!!!

read the sub pages though, take notes; drug tests are not something to take lightly.

good luck!

 

Belhade

A quick question about subbing: I'm opting for using condoms since I've got a whole economy-size box, but they're lubed. There have been a few mentions that they should be un-lubed, but would washing them inside and out with, say, dish soap take care of it? The condom ends up tacky and sticky after washing, so I'd imagine that all the lube came off. I did make sure to rinse it thoroughly to get rid of the soap.

As for holding, I'm using the twist-tie method and a cotton tube sock tied around my upper thigh (yes I'm that skinny!) but it doesn't seem to be warm enough (can't find a thermometer at the moment) and it does slip a bit, so I'll probably head out to the store and get a pair of tighties - haven't worn those since junior high!

Sec

While you are at the store, why not get yourself a 2 ounce bottle of shampoo, or mouthwash, or a 4 ounce bottle of elmers glue, douche bottle, something small and plastic? That way you don't have to worry about the condom slipping down or the lubricant.

panic217

Sec3, N2, or anyone else that knows what they're talking about. I have to take a pre-employment drug test next week. I've been smoking for a while, so it wouldn't do me any good to quit for three days. I've opted for the substitution method. I'm hoping to use a friends clean pee, but in case I can't get any I've also ordered quick fix. In the event I have to use the quick fix, I have a question. I know there are tons of people on this site that used quick fix and passed. However, I've read on other sites about IgG testing - something unique to human urine. I live in nc, so technically its illegal for me to buy quick fix. Do you know of any drug test facilities that actually test for IgG. Do you think a nc facility would be more or less likely to test for IgG considering the legal issue? At first I thought they wouldn't waste their time - the products are illegal, so they're harder to get in nc. Then I thought, maybe they'd be more inclined to test for sythetic urine since it is illegal. Do you think I'll be okay using quick fix for a substitution in nc? Also, the quick fix I ordered didn't say if it was 4.0, but the picture of the product was the same as all the other sites I saw selling quick fix. Any thoughts? Thanks for any advice.

Belhade

Well, let's see...I've got some small bottles of cat ear drops...I guess those could be washed out just as well as anything else you've listed?

lew scannon

Human Glycoprotein Immunoglobulin G (IgG) is not being tested if you reside anywhere in the States. Labs are prohibited from performing any type of genetic analysis on a urine sample collected for a drug test, unless authorization is granted by the donor on a seperate and detailed consent form. As long as you have a current batch of QF, it will be fine.
There are other posts in this thread and throughout the forum that discuss this issue as well.

The formula number is on the bottom flap of the box that the QF comes in.

Hope that helps a little