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i2007

Yeah but who even wants to be asked for more piss??. the idea is togo in knowing you'll have zero problems. Thinking about it, and assuming QF is not a secret, if I were a drug test lab and someone gave me 2 oz's and the cup goes up to 3 or maybe more, that would be a red flag. Keep in mind I don't know what the average donor deposits or have I seen it mentioned. Then if I asked for more and the patient said I ain't got it.., I'm becomming leary of 2 oz's and QF. Yes, I read thru it all and I see that the D.O.T. guidelines call for 2 oz's yet, it seems the test labs would pick up on it if they had any brains at all. I think you need to have more than 2 oz's just to eliminate the I know QF ships in 2 oz bottles factor. Anyone know what the average deposit of a naturally clean piss test is?

 

Sec

Lew is right. The collection will always ASK for more than is needed because people always give less than is asked for. Also, you can get a better temperature reading with a larger volume of urine.

If you gave only 30 ml and took a bit of extra time getting out of the restroom, or set the collection cup down on the cold porcelin of the toilet tank, you might not make the temperature requirements and then you would have to pee again anyway.

The collector cannot reject a specimen if it contains the REQUIRED quantity. Just because the collector asked for more, makes no difference.

BTW, Most Quest non-DOT drug tests are single specimen, (30 mL). Even if it is a split specimen, it is only 60 mL (approximately 2 ounces). There is NEVER a test that REQUIRES more urine than 60 mL.

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i2007

Has anyone ever been rejected for JUST a 2oz deposit?? I would think the majority of people being tested are legit, and able to give what is asked for. This is what makes me leary of only having 2oz's to give. Hey, this is important stuff. Why worry about not having enough piss when you can buy 3oz's of it from cleatest for less money. Even if you do have to mix it. Rather be safe than sorry. :Belly" claims they wanted 90 ml's thats 3 oz's.

Sec

i2007;

I do this for a living and I am telling you, they cannot reject your specimen if you give the required quantity. Just because they asked for more, doesn't make the quantity you gave invalid as long as it meets the minimum amount required to fill either the single or split collection vials. If they discard an adequate amount, you have a very legitimate complaint with your employer. You can wave all the red flags you want to, but if there is enough urine to complete the test, there is nothing the collector can do about a void of exactly 2 oz.

But, go ahead and feed off your fears if you need to...

BTW: The proper term is not "deposit" but rather a "void".

i2007

Hey, I appreciate all the advise and I don't doubt any of it. The reality is that not all the tests are DOT. I'm finding I'm not the only one that wonders if 2oz's is enough. I'm also reading that some collectors can smell the difference.. I have yet to read of anyone failing or being hastled for "voiding" 2 oz's, however I did happen upon the below post. Thx again for all the input.
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Chillum1887
QUICKFIX 4.0, BUYER BEWARE
This has already been said in another post but just wanted to let people know that if you plan on using quickfix 4.0 on a drug test, BE SURE to bring 2 containers of it with you for the lab screening.
I took my test today and when I emptied the first container into the cup, it didn't make it up to the line! Thanks to Damon, i brought 2 with me, and I emptied half of the 2nd one into the cup. Granted, It could've been done with only 1/4 to 1/3 from the 2nd QuickFix 4.0 bottle (1/2 sent it over the line), but the first one DID NOT make it there.
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Chillum1887
Thanks for the props chillum. You aint kiddin, the first thing I thought when I bought the stuff was: Is this gonna be enough to fill the cup up? I was literally in my car heading home from the head shop when I turned around and went back and bought a second one and boy am I glad I did. I think they give you 2 oz. this is simply not enough and I cant believe that nobody mentioned it before me. They should give you 3 oz. and that would be ample in my judgement."

 

belly

No it wasn't QF. Sorry for the confusion. Guess I should post if I know what QF is...

Sec

The "line" this person is referring to is the line the collector drew on the cup. It is by no means the quantity that is needed for submission to a laboratory. I am telling you that if you give 3 ounces, you will watch the collector fill the vials with their required quantity then pour the remainder in the toilet.

If it makes you feel better, then by all means, submit 3 ounces. Just remember, what is asked for is always more than what is necessary.

belly

I agree...

I have performed numerous drug tests on patients with a drop of pee. It is like fishing for oil, but it works. When you work in a prison system and the inmate sits in a cell in a police station for hours before they get to you, they can't give you much. As long as you give them something you should be fine. Don't fret about the amount, just practice the temperature.

It is kind of obsurd to ask for so much. I am sure only a couple of drops are required.

Sec, do you think they want so much, because they just want a good temp and color?

RandyR

I'm with this guy.

gurly1515

just subbed for the second time this morning and feeling absolutely wonderful about it! i was so nervous before hand but one it was over lit up a blunt and calmed down quick as hell now im feeling fannnnttttttttaaaasssssstiicc