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Old 10-18-2007, 02:33 PM   #841
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They need more than a couple of drops.

For a single specimen, 30 mL are required

for a split specimen (DOT or DOT equivalent test), 45 mL is required

Some split tests require 60 mL for their non-DOT test.

No one ever requires more than this quantity.

We always ask for more, never require more.
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Old 10-21-2007, 02:20 AM   #842
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So 2-3 ounces of urine is the most a lab can ever ask for?
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:07 PM   #843
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Default Just a Couple Questions re Clear Choice

I've read this thread until my eyes are crossed and I can't find the answer to this question...I'm sorry if it's a repeat:

I'll be using Clear Choice Sub Solution; dehydrated, you add water...you know the drill...just wondered 1) Do they check for the presence of the heat activator powder that comes in the package; 2) Do both powders dissolve easily?

That's all I want to know. Thanks in advance.
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Old 10-23-2007, 11:32 PM   #844
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I am unfamiliar with that product, so I can't answer your question. However; I tend to not trust things that have additives. It just seems that if the additive is ok, the company should add it before sending it to you.
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Old 10-25-2007, 03:50 AM   #845
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I am so luck that the cleartest gave me two supplies of synthetic urine. When I got to my job, I had to have another drug test. That was basically two weeks ago. Of course I passed, but now being a pot smoker is behind me, because I found out that they do randoms. Boy I will miss mary jane...
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:17 PM   #846
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I've been reading all over the forum for the last couple days and I've finally decided the substitution method is my best bet for a pre employment drug test I'm taking tomorrow morning. Because of lack of time, I bought Puck Technology's "Number 1" from the local head shop as opposed to ordering QuickFix 4.0 like everyone has recommended here. It's a synthetic urine kit with 2 heat pads, a belt, a 3oz package of synthetic urine that lies between your skin and the belt, and a little temperature strip that reads between 90-100 thats placed on the urine package. A piece of tubing is attached to the package and you're instructed to cut the end of the tubing and fasten 2 clips in the middle of the tubing until you're ready to let it fly in the cup. The instructions also tell you to apply one of the adhesive heat pads between the package and belt (on the other side of the package from your skin).

Tomorrow morning I have to be at work at 6am and won't be testing until probably around 8-8:30am. Can I show up to work at 6am with the pack heated at around 100 degrees for more than a couple hours without running into any trouble when I take my test?

The belt and kit is actually surprising comfortable, it doesn't really bother me at all while it's on.

Does the synthetic urine get damaged in any way from being heated to around 100 degrees, then allowed to cool back to room temperature, and then heated again? I only ask because I plan on practicing to make sure everything works perfectly, but because of the unique way this kit is setup, it's difficult to do it any other way than the real thing.

Any suggestions, insight, or any form of help is very much appreciated. I will be sure to make a post after I take my test and find the result with my experience.
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That's the great thing with quick fix is you can reheat it as many times as needed.
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Default Substitution Questions...

Hello everybody, after doing research upon research, I am sincerely considering substitution since it sounds relatively easy and is almost fool proof. I do have a couple of questions though...

1) when using quickfix or perfecturine.com (planning on using perfect urine), when you pour out the piss, does it actually bubble up like urine from a guy should? for example, when i go in a cup, the force from the impact in the cup causes it to bubble/foam up a little on the top. wont that be a sign that it has been tampered with if it doesnt?

2) also, do you actually pee in the toilet too? i have heard that some testers actually peak in the toilet to make sure it looks ok. i am concerned that there will be so much on my mind and to do, that i dont want to be distracted with peeing too. that could ruin everything for me. what do you guys think?

3) and i read a few posts asking about observed preemployment tests. i have had a few preemployment tests in my lifetime and they were never observed. does anybody have an direct experience with observed tests for preemployment?

thanks everybody. this is the greatest site in the world!
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Old 11-03-2007, 01:43 PM   #849
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1) when using quickfix or perfecturine.com (planning on using perfect urine), when you pour out the piss, does it actually bubble up like urine from a guy should? for example, when i go in a cup, the force from the impact in the cup causes it to bubble/foam up a little on the top. wont that be a sign that it has been tampered with if it doesnt?
A lack of foaming is of no concern as this is sometimes experienced in human samples as well as synthetics. Its an excessive amount of foaming is what raises the red flags.
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Old 11-09-2007, 05:40 PM   #850
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Default Infrequent smoker

I have read a lot of posts in this forum and I would like to say that I have learned a lot from this forum.

I have a question though...

I smoke maybe a hit here and a hit there. I am not a frequent smoker and take only hit at a time because if I take 2 hits, I can not think straight.

I weigh 180lbs and have a fast metabolism. I can eat ice cream and drink a large glass of milk before going to bed EVERY night for a year and not gain any weight. I know this because this is what I do.

I have very little body fat and only have a little stored in my mid section.

Anyway, I have to take a 35106N SAP 5-100 W/NIT test. I have not smoked in the last 4 days and before that, it was 1 hit the day before...1 a few days before...etc. Like I said, I am not a heavy user and actually do not draw that much into my lungs.

After reading these posts, I am working out like a madman and cutting my fat intake for the next week. I will then severly increase my fat intake 3-4 days prior to the test. In addition, I will be increasing my Creatine intake.

I will not venture to ask anyone what my chances are of passing with my own urine...but has anyone passed using their own urine under the same useage patterns such as mine?

Thank you,

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