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needjob

Okay, so here’s my story (mostly following n2’s guidelines)
I used to smoke a lot of pot (like an oz a week) when I was teen but not so much any more now that I’m in my 20’s and looking for a career, though a lot of my friends still do (I mostly just drink, though occasionally I’ll pop a xanax/vicodin or something or on a very special occasion maybe some white stuff, but not that often) my girlfriend that I live with also smokes a bunch of pot, so maybe once or twice a week I will just take one hit when she’s smoking which is (at this point of my life one or two hits is PLENTY enough to get me high)

So I’ve been unemployed for about a month. I went to an interview and the guy interviewing me seemed pretty optimistic about giving me the job, he said I’d have to go through a background/RMV check and physical but never mentioned a drug screen. The following Saturday was my best friend birthday, so we went a little crazy. Got hammered, took a xanax, some amphetamines, little coke, and smoked 2 joints (the night before I had also taken a few vicodins at a different party)
I don’t do this very often, but it was just kind of one of those rare party weekends.

I spent Sunday being hungover.

Tuesday comes, I get a call from the guy saying that I got the job (great job, company car, full benefits, vacation time, personal time, sick leave, 401k, everything), then an hour later I get a call form HR saying I need to take a physical and under her breath she also mentions drug screen. She wanted me to take it that afternoon, but I made up an excuse and said I was busy that day, and that I had to help a friend move the following day so I couldn’t do it then. We settled on Thursday at 10am, so I had bought myself 2 days to prepare

I immediately went out and bought a 2-day detox kit. Some people say it’s a waste of money, and it might be, it made me feel like crap and it literally cleaned my colon out for like 12 hours of painful time on the toilet (I hear a colon cleansing is good every once in a while so maybe it wasn’t a complete waste of money), I also proceeded to drink gallons of pure cranberry juice and water
So day two before the test was pretty much spent pooping and drinking cranberry juice from the detox drink. I also did a quick workout to try to sweat out some toxins then sat in a sauna afterwards.

Day one before the test (Wednesday) I found this site and it made me feel a little better. I immediately I went and found some old creatine mix I had laying around and drank 3 glasses of it. I also continued to drink the cranberry juice and half of the second bottle of the detox drink.
Then I went to CVS, bought some aspirin, Rolaids, B-complex vitamins, and a home drug test that screens for 12 different drugs (5 of them I had done within the past week)

After much water/cranberry juice drinking I took the test half way through the day, the results of the 5 drugs I had done (obviously I had negative result for the other 7 drugs I hadn’t done):
Opiates: immediate negative result
Amphetamines: immediate negative result
THC: negative, but the line was VERY faint and took about 15 minutes to show up.
Cocaine: negative, but the line was also VERY faint., also took about 15 minutes to show up.
Benzo (xanax): positive. Failed. No line at all.

So then I just kept drinking water, and researching some more, I had less than a day to clean the rest of pot and coke COMPLETELY out of my body, and get rid of that benzo.

9 pm: ate some pizza, last think I would eat before the test.

At about 10 pm (exactly 12 hour before the test, I popped 4 aspirin) keep drinking water.

1:30 am: popped another 4 aspirin, drank more water, fell asleep.

Woke up at 5:45 am (not much sleep, about 4 hours before the test) took another 4 aspirin immediately, with a multi vitamin.

Then I started the heavy duty water drinking. 2 full glasses, then 8 oz every 15 minutes like N2 said for about 3 hours.

And hour and half before the test, I took 10 of the B-complex vitamins and 4 Rolaids. Went and bought 3 Gatorades and switched from water to those for the final hour.

I had to drive about an hour to the test, making one pit stop at a burger kind to pee (pee was still clear at this time)

Made it to the test, peed one more time at the hospital (knowing I would have about 20 minutes worth of paper work and didn’t want to piss my pants, and that I would have to pee again in 20 minutes) after I peed I had a good long drink form a water fountain in the hospital water fountain.

I took the test, as I peed it was a good shade of yellow for the first time (thank god), the only fuckup I did was that I think I may have caught the stream a little to early into the start (I know you’re supposed to collect the mid-stream), but whatever.

I also then found out it was only a 5 screen, so they weren’t even testing me for the xanax. My only worry is the pot and cocaine.

So to sum up, I smoked, did coke, amphetamines, and opiates on Saturday night (the four things I was getting tested for). I BARELY passed my self-test on Wednesday for pot and coke, the other two I passed no problem. On Thursday I woke up 4 hours before my test and then I started following N2’s method to a tee for my test at 10am.

I will post the result as soon as I get them.

 

needjob

passed!

6 different "substances" on saturday, passed a test on thursday (with 48 hours notice)

THANK YOU N2 AND EVERYONE ELSE.

ScRuFFy63

OK heres the deal i'm trying to get a job at a nursing home. And I will be urine tested. My mom just so happens to work there also. and she tells me that when I get called for an interview I will be tested the same day. If I try to put off the interview for a later date I will not be considered for hire. so my question is:

Is there any way to extend the dilution method? can I start at 6am and contintue untill later in the day without worry of over diluting?

blaze_sum_treez

You're an idiot.


You're going to fuckHOUSE your liver and kidneys taking 4 aspirins along with creatine everyday. Why put all that strain on your body just to smoke a little bud? Your going to die from liver failure very soon.
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ScRuFFy63

OK heres the deal i'm trying to get a job at a nursing home. And I will be urine tested. My mom just so happens to work there also. and she tells me that when I get called for an interview I will be tested the same day. If I try to put off the interview for a later date I will not be considered for hire. so my question is:

Is there any way to extend the dilution method? can I start at 6am and continue until later in the day without worry of over diluting?

 

FXjohn

probably but you'll be peeing and drinking constantly. Any reason you can't sub?

ScRuFFy63

the sub is going to be my plan A dilution will be plan B. I'm not sure if they are going to watch me. My mom told me almost everybody fails the test so I don't know what to expect. i'm just playin it safe.

Sec

Show your Mother this regulation. There is no reason nor justification for observing a pre-employment drug test without cause.

Below is CFR 49, Part 40.67. Part 40 is the standard by which most, if not all employment drug testing protocols are foumulated after. It is the regulation for which all DOT regulated drug testing is required to follow.

You must realize that simply being in the same room with the donor is not an observed test. If the collector cannot secure all water sources or there is more than one entrance/exit to the restroom and the collector cannot secure all doors from the outside of one, if there are multiple storage cabinets and the integrity of the urine specimen collection cannot be maintained, then the collector (if is a medical technician or is of the same sex) is allowed to be in the restroom with the donor. The monitor is not to actually watch the urine flow from the body, but is required to insure the donor does not adulterate the specimen in any way.

Quote:

§ 40.67 When and how is a directly observed collection conducted? (a) As an employer, you must direct an immediate collection under direct observation with no advance notice to the employee, if: (1) The laboratory reported to the MRO that a specimen is invalid, and the MRO reported to you that there was not an adequate medical explanation for the result; (2) The MRO reported to you that the original positive, adulterated, or substituted result had to be cancelled because the test of the split specimen could not be performed; or (3) The laboratory reported to the MRO that the specimen was negative-dilute with a creatinine concentration greater than or equal to 2 mg/dL but less than or equal to 5 mg/dL, and the MRO reported the specimen to you as negative-dilute and that a second collection must take place under direct observation (see §40.197(b)(1)). (b) As an employer, you may direct a collection under direct observation of an employee if the drug test is a return-to-duty test or a follow-up test. (c) As a collector, you must immediately conduct a collection under direct observation if: (1) You are directed by the DER to do so (see paragraphs (a) and (b) of this section); or (2) You observed materials brought to the collection site or the employee's conduct clearly indicates an attempt to tamper with a specimen (see §§40.61(f)(5)(i) and 40.63(e)); or (3) The temperature on the original specimen was out of range (see §40.65(b)(5)); or (4) The original specimen appeared to have been tampered with (see §40.65(c)(1)). (d)(1) As the employer, you must explain to the employee the reason for a directly observed collection under paragraph (a) or (b) of this section. (2) As the collector, you must explain to the employee the reason, if known, under this part for a directly observed collection under paragraphs (c)(1) through (3) of this section. (e) As the collector, you must complete a new CCF for the directly observed collection. (1) You must mark the “reason for test” block (Step 1) the same as for the first collection. (2) You must check the “Observed, (Enter Remark)” box and enter the reason (see §40.67(b)) in the “Remarks” line (Step 2). (f) In a case where two sets of specimens are being sent to the laboratory because of suspected tampering with the specimen at the collection site, enter on the “Remarks” line of the CCF (Step 2) for each specimen a notation to this effect (e.g., collection 1 of 2, or 2 of 2) and the specimen ID number of the other specimen. (g) As the collector, you must ensure that the observer is the same gender as the employee. You must never permit an opposite gender person to act as the observer. The observer can be a different person from the collector and need not be a qualified collector. (h) As the collector, if someone else is to observe the collection (e.g., in order to ensure a same gender observer), you must verbally instruct that person to follow procedures at paragraphs (i) and (j) of this section. If you, the collector, are the observer, you too must follow these procedures. (i) As the observer, you must watch the employee urinate into the collection container. Specifically, you are to watch the urine go from the employee's body into the collection container. (j) As the observer but not the collector, you must not take the collection container from the employee, but you must observe the specimen as the employee takes it to the collector. (k) As the collector, when someone else has acted as the observer, you must include the observer's name in the “Remarks” line of the CCF (Step 2). (l) As the employee, if you decline to allow a directly observed collection required or permitted under this section to occur, this is a refusal to test. (m) As the collector, when you learn that a directly observed collection should have been collected but was not, you must inform the employer that it must direct the employee to have an immediate recollection under direct observation. [65 FR 79526, Dec. 19, 2000, as amended at 66 FR 41950, Aug. 9, 2001; 68 FR 31626, May 28, 2003; 69 FR 64867, Nov.9, 2004]

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ScRuFFy63

So tell me if I understand this correctly. I'm basically not going to be supervised unless I fail the test or they suspect tampering?

Sec

I am not saying they will NOT observe, what I have done is give you the tools you need to argue if they try to observe. Some employers do, most don't. Those with ethics and know what they are doing, don't observe for pre-employment unless you do something that justifies it.