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Old 07-07-2006, 06:20 AM   #581
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Sorry, Forgot to mention that the HRO called me June 29th to tell me of my June 5th test but, he also told me that if I came back POSITIVE, he would keep it to himself and I would have to take another around the first of the month. But if I came back NEGATIVE, he would have me released from counseling.

I am also a salt-a-holic and was not concerned about specific gravity, and besides, I drank Gatorade which is high in sodium anyway.

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Old 07-07-2006, 11:00 AM   #582
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Well, that's my story. I hope this info helps. But remember, not everyone is the same and, just because it worked for me, you should always test yourself, experiment with the methods, practice, and dont smoke until you have a confirmed NEGATIVE from the testing lab.
Good post and some sound advice. Congratulations.
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Old 07-07-2006, 06:10 PM   #583
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Default N2 Dilution method includes tums/rolaids?

Hey guys, been reading boards for a while and have gone through entire dilution thread (59 pages, wow). I have continually seen posts that mention adding salt to gatorade and/or taking tum or rolaids as well. Now I have read (and printed out) the sticky from page one with step by step instructions on Dilution and do not see anything that states one should be taking rolaids/tums. Nor have I scene adding salt to gatorade on the sticky. I am a bit confused about the salt and tums thing. Is it needed if you follow N2's Dilution sticky method step by step?? If so when? how much??

I may have a drug test upcoming next week or two (or 3??) and I have abstained since June 23 (waiting on official word from HR).

Heavy smoker (3-4 times a day of super sweets-equaling about 5-10 bat hits per day) for last 10+ years. I am a small guy, 5' 7" 145-150lbs decent metabolism as I have hard time gaining weight. Been eating lofat hi fibre diet and I plan to do cardio starting today (will stop 3-4 days before and eat fatty foods as stated in thread).

In addition, I want to do dry runs of the dilution method as I have home test strips (the cheapies) but they do not test for levels of creatinine. I will get a real thorough test kit from Rite Aid (suggestions of which one) to confirm as well before I test. As for dry runs, how do I do this?? Do I do everything the sticky says as if it were real test?? Do I do the the creatine loading as well?? Can I start doing creatine today and just keep doing it for next couple weeks until test day as I will be working out anyway (I used it before when I was working out in college)? Sorry for all the questions, but I need answers and this site has so far proven incredibly invaluable. I would like to have a set game plan step by step. Journal it and everything.

In fact, a good idea for a thread would be dedicated to only step by step processes that were followed for the dilution method. No questions, just journals of each persons step by step process.

Anyway, thanks in advance for all the help.
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Old 07-07-2006, 07:10 PM   #584
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adding salt to gatorade and/or taking tum or rolaids as well.
It's for the specific gravity of your urine. Good luck with your test.
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Old 07-07-2006, 07:21 PM   #585
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Default Tums, Rolaids and gravity..

Thanks, but how do I incorporate that into the Dilution method posted on page 1 of the thread. If I follow the initial post step by step, do I still need this? And if so, when do I take the Tums/Rolaids, at what point in the step by step process? Confusing... Thanks to all again..
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Old 07-07-2006, 07:23 PM   #586
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Thanks, but how do I incorporate that into the Dilution method posted on page 1 of the thread. If I follow the initial post step by step, do I still need this? And if so, when do I take the Tums/Rolaids, at what point in the step by step process? Confusing... Thanks to all again..
Just follow the Dilution method carefully don't worry about other posts.

The home test is a good idea.
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Old 07-07-2006, 07:46 PM   #587
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Default Took the test......

Welp I took the drug test today.

I went by the directions N2 gave pretty much the same.

3 hours before the test I took 4 asprin, Drank water in the exact way he stated, I probably pissed about 6 times clear before I took the test even after I took the vitamin b complex, Liquids seem to go right through me, its just how I am, Im 6'1 160 lbs. I ate a bunch of red meat 3 days prior to the test. I pissed so many times clear and the time was ticking by, I figured I would piss yellow once and then leave. But it didnt happen that way.

Finally I said screw it im going to take the test, I got there and there were 2 people ahead of me, So I waited, I had to go so bad I couldnt wait any longer, I went out to my car and pissed a bit in a bottle LOL, Just enough to hold me over, And what do you know IT WAS YELLOW!. Finally my time came up and I had to go super bad again, I filled the cup up over 60 ml which was the requirement, And pissed the rest I had to go in the toilet which seemed to take forever . It was yellow.

I have pretty good confidence that I passed, I will post the results in a couple days!
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Old 07-09-2006, 03:11 AM   #588
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Default Dilution dry run question

As previously posted above, I am looking to do some dry runs on the dilution method before the real test. I am 15 days clean so far and did a THC strip test this am 1st pee with no dilution just to see where I am at au natural. Tested positive as I thought I would.

Regarding dry runs, should I follow N2's method including the creatine or should the dry run be without the creatine?
Also, as previously posted, as per N2's method, there is no mention of salt, tums, rolaids. I appreciate the previous poster stating to just follow the method to a T and ignore all other posts, but I continue to see posts that incorporate salt, tums, rolaids into the method, still confused, unsure. Sorry for the repeat post, but I (as most others) am paranoid about failing this test. This is a must pass for me as it is great opportunity.

PS - I would like to buy a drug test kit in Rite aid that will test like the one I anticipate taking for my pre-employment urine screen (it is for a Fortune 500 investment bank, unsure what type of screen this would be). Can someone recommend one or a few that I can purchase. I have the THC test strips but they are pretty bare bones. When I get this test kit, I guess I can do a full dry run including the creatine?? Also, is it a bad idea to start taking creatine now and just continue to take it throughout the next few weeks up until real test time so that I can do "real" dry runs?? Again, sorry for repeating, but I have not gotten the answers I had hoped. Excuse my impatience, just want to be prepared waaaaay ahead of time. Real test can be given to me anywhere from next 1-3 weeks.

Thank you again for all the help this board has given me. My wife on the other hand is sick of me and my "friggin message board crap" lol
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I really don't think that creatinine will affect a home test where there is not adulterant check. With anywhere from 3 to 5 weeks of abstaining, you should be able to pass using the dilution method with very little fear of receiving a dilute result.

Most testing/collection facilities have what is called an "integrated split cup w/adulterant panel". Look in the yellow pages under "drug testing" or "employment services". call these places until one has a split cup offered for sale. They should cost you no more than $15.00 for the cup. You don't need them to collect for you, just sell you the device.

The salt is to help with the specific gravity. That is why gatorade or powerade or some other sports drink is recommended. The electrolytes contained in them helps keep the sodium level up in the body and makes it unnecessary to "eat salt". (someone correct me if I am wrong on this point.)

Try not to let the "paranoias" get to you. You are doing fine so far, try to relax.
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Took 4 Aspirin, Drunk Gatorade 4 hours before test. Took 3 B 12 and 1 Tums 1 hour before test. All the while drinking 12oz of Gatorade every 15 minutes after I ran out of Gatorade switch to water. Went in and waited about 30 minutes and passed with flying colors. Whewwwww Got me an awesome job Baby!!!!!

And Just Smoked Two FAT AZZ Blunts Tuesday!!!
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