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needtopass420

i have just spent about an hour on this site and i am finding it so extremely helpful.

i need to pee clean for a city job...........does anyone know if these tests are supervised or harder to pass than say if i was trying to get a job at best buy or something?? i absolutely have to pass this test. i am a heavy smoker, a couple times daily, and have been for about seven years. i am not sure exactly when this test will be as of yet but i will know more after my interview.

my question is this........for a city drug test like this what is my best option? should i use this dilution method i have read so much about or should i try to substitute? i feel like both are sketchy and i'm terrified about failing this test! i would appreciate any help i could get.

 

SmokeytheBeav.

What kind of work would you be doing? Driving trucks or using machinery or office type work?
Keep reading all of the posts and PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE with home tests. There is a ton of information available from just reading (yes, it might take a few days).

needtopass420

um, it is for a museum.

i have been reading..............and i understand that there is a multitude of information. that is my problem. i don't know what route to take.

anyone have any insight on which method? should i try to detox the way i've read to on the site or should i try the quickfix stuff??

SmokeytheBeav.

Personally, I have been practicing using a combination of N2 and S2's methods. I have home tested 5 times with negative results when using dillution (gatorade, asprin, creatine, etc.). From what I have read on this forum, imo, it appears that keeping the right temp. for substitution is the hardest part. I did not feel comfortable trying this method, but that is me, not you. Many, many, many people have passed using the instructions for dillution and substitution. Buy home tests and practice! Also, from reading this forum, the detox stuff doesn't help build up creatine in time and could also lead to over/under dillution...in other words failing your test. The moderators are great and are here to help you (and the rest of us!
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TimeToBurn79

Greetings,

I have been lurking on this forum for the past few weeks, and would like to say that I have gained invaluable information. That being said, here is my story. After abstaining for the past 24 days, I took an "At Home" test this morning with my first void of the day, and passed with a full dark line. Although I passed on my "dirtiest" void of the day, I am still not willing to take the chance of losing the opportunity for a great job. My concern is the cutoff levels being administered for my upcoming UA. The "At Home" test had a cutoff of 50, but how do I know that my upcoming test won't be 15? Also, a full 2 oz of my urine will be tested for the UA, as opposed to the 4 drops used in the take home test. My UA is being administered by LabCorp. My test will be Thursday 7-20, and have been taking 10 - 15 grams of creatine for 2 days (would be 5 as of the test). At this rate, I believe I could still dillute, and be safe as far as creatinine levels, so I am prepared either to give a dilluted, or regular sample..... Any thoughts as to what my plan of action should be? Thanks in advance.

 

1tokeovertheline

If you dilute follow the instructions very carefully. If you had a line on the home test you should be OK, so if you NEED to dilute for your own mind, don't over dilute. Personally if I had a negative on the home test, I wouldn't mess with dilution and chance getting a negative-dilute.

MarkerInTheSand

I have a test this week, and i will only be 2-3 days clean. We get random tests at work, but a little birdy told me I'm on the list for this week. (can't divulge how that works....)

anyway I've been smoking pretty heavy the last 2-3 months, up thru this weekend, so I'm beleive dilution is too risky. everone agree?

TimeToBurn79

Well, my thoughts were to use half of what the dillution method calls for(Instead of 64 oz fluid, 32 oz fluid, instead of 10 B Vitamins, 5 B Vitamins) I mean, as I see it, I'm going to need to drink a decent amount of fluids to produce enough urine for the sample, and 32 oz doesn't seem extreme. I'm just a little weary of any take home test. I mean, the difference between 4 drops on a piece of paper, and an EMIT being used on 2 oz have to be substantial. Maybe I'm just getting nervous because my big day is coming up?

P.S. I also plan on taking another take-home for the day of the test.... After being a habitual 4-5x a week smoker for the past 5 years, I'm a little nervous about this test. Yes, its been 24 days, yes I've been at the gym everday running 2 miles, yes I've been taking fat burners, but better safe than sorry....

P.P.S. Yes, I know to stop taking fat burners days before the test, for possibly testing positive for meth...

TimeToBurn79

The type of test I'm going to be taking uses immunoassay testing, which is apparently the same form of testing that the LabCorp test uses. SO I guess if I passed the take-home, I should be ok. I guess I just have to wait and see the result of the next take-home on the morning of the test! Again, thanks for all the info!

JackBauer

The usual test cutoff is 50 ng/ml as the screen. Some use 100 ng/ml which is somewhat rare and the 20 ng/ml which is rare too. If they give you the chain of custody form a few days before the test to take to the testing site with you you can use this site and others to find out which cutoff they will use. Most use the 50 ng/ml screen. Sometimes there are ways to use the Hr department or personel to call them and get info about the test if you are the slick and sneaky type.

You should practice at home with both methods. Use home testing kits to see if you can pass using dilution. If you have several days to prepare you can use home testing to try to track the progress of your body and whether you have eliminated enough to pass on your own. A lot of people will find that they are not passing the home test then with dilution they are passing (that sounds kind of redundent). Or they find that they can't pass with the first urine of the day which is the dirtiest but can pass with later urines. The dilution method has been calculated so that you pass a test if you are close without failing for diluted sample. Anyone can just drink 2 gallons of water but the goal of dilution is not to free flow water out of your body. Practicing subsitution includes learning to conceal as well as maintaining the right temp. Then you can go in with a substitution and have prepared using dilution. If you can't pull off the sub, then you can give them your dilute urine.