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nobody

Hey ppl.

I just registered

Im get tested a lot, and i am wondering if probation UA's test for specific mass,pH,creatine, and specific gravity?

Its just usually a 3 panel dip test that has the positive or negative bars on it.

Does that mean it only tests for the drugs, and no scientific matters like the pH or mass?

Also, do you think the dip tests tests they use are the good kind (ms/gs or whateva?) or are they EMIT.

im up in idaho too, if it helps. thanks ppl

oh yea i tried looking round for my answer, couldnt find it.

Thanks!

 

melanotaenia

yes they do test for these parameters and the control line will not show up if the levels of creatine, ph, and S.G. are not in check.

But keep in mind that though your S.G. for urine can be above 1.020, you can dilute and as long as it is above 1.003, you are still considered giving a valid sample. That means you can dilute a lot and still be ok; just don't overdo it; also, they test creatine and S.G. and if either are in the acceptable range, it is considered a valid sample; by this I mean that even if your S.G. is below the cutoff, if your creatine is in range it will be a valid sample, and vise versa

Hope this helps.

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nobody

so what is an additive i could put in my urine to pass a test?

i heard visine would work if its an EMIT test, and powdered bleach.

anything else? im in a messed up situation. i have no clue when i get tested. a probation officer will show up at my home at random and demand a test, so i cant substitute with humane urine, because it would go bad.

i need HELP!

melanotaenia

ok well first of all you can always get synthetic urine and mix it up at any time and it will never go bad if you don't mix it up.

Another thing to consider; many tests can tell if you "spike" the sample with visine or bleach, and you can get in a LOT of trouble doing this. You want to be careful if you attempt to go that route; you are at the mercy of the tester if you decide to use an additive. With that said, I would just keep a diluted sample at all times; by this I mean if you want to continue to smoke, keep the water levels in your body up, so if you are faced with a random, you will always be dilute for the sample you are going to give.

Hope that helps. I know there is an additive that a company sells on the net that is supposed to be undetectable, but even this is kind of a wager, since you could always be faced with a visual urine screen where they watch you piss, in which case NO additive can be used without suspicion.

Cheers

nobody

I have a hose contraption to administer fake urine to the cup. totally works. its a standard urine cup with a temp strip, which i just installed a hose with an on/off valve.

could i just keep my real urine in the lil bottle, completely dilluted with water?

what ratio should i fill it with? half urine half water?

does it pass a test?

thanks dude

 

melanotaenia

the problem is that you cannot leave human urine at room temperature for a long time; only a few hours at most, or else it needs to be frozen. I know quick fix is a synthetic that comes in powder form; simply mix with water that is the same temp as urine (in the 90 degree range) and you can use this in the sample and you will have no problems. The synthetic has all levels that are the same as human urine.

If you choose to use your own, you would need to freeze it until the day of the test, then you can thaw it out, bring it slowly to room temp by putting it in a container of warm water, and use that.

Hope that helps

nobody

well it would work, but i have NO IDEA whatsoever when i may be tested. So its not like i can just tell the probation officer to hold on at the door for while i unthaw **** and get it into my contraption?

uhg. why cant you keep urine in a closed container for a while? what will hapen

melanotaenia

while I am not aware of the scientific basis, the problem with storing urine is that it is just like any other human substance; unless it is kept frozen or used right after it comes out of the human body, it will not be valid on the test screen that they do. Just like blood that is donated from the body for transfusions needs to be frozen....I think you see what I mean. Freezing it is the only way to ensure "freshness of the sample."

Cheers