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ThomasCat · 06-12-2004, 03:03 AM

Say your going to tested, you have around 15 minutes till testing, it will be closely monitored and to top it off it's a GC/MS test with a 15 ng/ml cut off?

IamN2pot · 06-12-2004, 03:34 AM

You pinch your penis and release your bladder. When suffecient presure has built up in your plumbing, you turn and fire at the 'monitor' and enjoy the satifaction of knowing you went down in a blaze. LOL! Under the conditions you described, you might as well have a little satifaction because you are going to fail the test anyway. N2
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melanotaenia · 06-12-2004, 07:21 PM

lol N2 you are too funny......but I have to ask what kind of people are you working for or being watched by that would go to these lengths? The 15ng/ml cutoff is almost impossible to pass without substituting unless you have been clean for a LONG, and I mean LONG time.

Cheers

IamN2pot · 06-12-2004, 07:43 PM

Mel, FYI. The 50ng/ml EMIT 'screen' cutoff detecting all 31 cannabis metabolites is roughly equall to the 15ng/ml GC/MS 'test' detecting only the singular THCA/THC-COOH metabolite. So in reality, passing either a 50ng/ml EMIT and 15ng/ml GC/MS is about the same. N2 (but I still say under those circumstances...piss ON them!)

ThomasCat · 06-12-2004, 08:44 PM

I do agree with Mel, you are good to go N2.

PhreshwaterPhunk · 06-12-2004, 09:06 PM

Get some good substitute piss. Put it in a condom and heat it up a bit, tie the end of the condom to the inside of you're fly. Tell them you have a very hard time peeing when they are watching, and they won't directly watch you. Bring a safety pin, and punch a hole at the tip of the condom. If done and squeezed correctly, you can mimmick someone taking a piss exactly if seen from the back. Goodluck!...

melanotaenia · 06-12-2004, 10:15 PM

that could work, but I know that most observed urinations are done in bathrooms with mirrors so the person watching you may have some issues with seeing a stream coming out from the end of something that looks like a latex condom when they are looking for a penis or something to that effect.

ThomasCat · 06-12-2004, 11:30 PM

You’re correct Mel, they stand about at a 90deg angel, but they don't use mirrors, the thing is you'd have take the rubber with ya all the time?
Thanks & keep it that good info coming!

melanotaenia · 06-13-2004, 12:10 AM

You are correct I have heard two versions of observation one is where they directly look at your piece (ugh) or the other where they use mirrors to look at you from behind.

Either way, it would, I agree, be cumbersome to carry around a rubber filled with urine with you at all times, and it would be difficult to regulate temperatures if it were carried around for prolonged periods of time.

06-12-2004, 03:03 AM	#1
ThomasCat New Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 10 Grams: 861.15 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	How would do you do it? Say your going to tested, you have around 15 minutes till testing, it will be closely monitored and to top it off it's a GC/MS test with a 15 ng/ml cut off?

06-12-2004, 03:34 AM	#2
IamN2pot Seasoned Activist Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,284 Grams: 4,205.15 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 29 Times in 7 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	You pinch your penis and release your bladder. When suffecient presure has built up in your plumbing, you turn and fire at the 'monitor' and enjoy the satifaction of knowing you went down in a blaze. LOL! Under the conditions you described, you might as well have a little satifaction because you are going to fail the test anyway. N2 (monitor) (you) __________________ SUBSTITUTION DILUTION Marijuana.Com Posting Guideline “They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security”. Benjamin Franklin

06-12-2004, 07:21 PM	#3
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06-12-2004, 09:06 PM	#6
PhreshwaterPhunk Mister Natural Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,072 Grams: 1,035.50 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Get some good substitute piss. Put it in a condom and heat it up a bit, tie the end of the condom to the inside of you're fly. Tell them you have a very hard time peeing when they are watching, and they won't directly watch you. Bring a safety pin, and punch a hole at the tip of the condom. If done and squeezed correctly, you can mimmick someone taking a piss exactly if seen from the back. Goodluck!... __________________ "Faster, faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death."Hunter S. Thompson

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06-12-2004, 07:43 PM	#4
IamN2pot Seasoned Activist Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,284 Grams: 4,205.15 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 29 Times in 7 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Mel, FYI. The 50ng/ml EMIT 'screen' cutoff detecting all 31 cannabis metabolites is roughly equall to the 15ng/ml GC/MS 'test' detecting only the singular THCA/THC-COOH metabolite. So in reality, passing either a 50ng/ml EMIT and 15ng/ml GC/MS is about the same. N2 (but I still say under those circumstances...piss ON them!)

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ThomasCat New Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 10 Grams: 861.15 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	I do agree with Mel, you are good to go N2.

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06-12-2004, 11:30 PM	#8
ThomasCat New Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 10 Grams: 861.15 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	You’re correct Mel, they stand about at a 90deg angel, but they don't use mirrors, the thing is you'd have take the rubber with ya all the time? Thanks & keep it that good info coming!

06-13-2004, 12:10 AM	#9
melanotaenia Seasoned Activist Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,464 Grams: 4,057.30 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	You are correct I have heard two versions of observation one is where they directly look at your piece (ugh) or the other where they use mirrors to look at you from behind. Either way, it would, I agree, be cumbersome to carry around a rubber filled with urine with you at all times, and it would be difficult to regulate temperatures if it were carried around for prolonged periods of time.

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