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Old 07-22-2004, 02:54 PM   #1
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Oh boy...

After working at my current job for a few months and NOT applying for other jobs, IBM decided to pull my resume and called me this morning out of the blue. I did a phone interview and they want me to start working for them in about 2 weeks (I need to give my current employer notice). I know they will be giving me a drug screen within the next week, but I don't know what (urine and/or hair - they didn't say). Does anyone have any experience with drug testing with IBM?

I have been smoking like a fiend for the past few weeks, nearly every night, so I've decided to substitute using Da Dornta's method (dog urine). I've also picked up the macCujo thread on the vinegar, Clean and Clear, Tide and Aloe Rid method for hair testing. I'll let everyone know how this works.
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Old 07-22-2004, 10:59 PM   #2
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Hey there Greenbud, I am going to go out on a limb here and say they are most likely going to give you a urine test only. The dog urine is a good idea, though I would try to get a sample from a human if you possibly can, or consider some QuickFix off the internet, it works just as well. The temperature of course, is of the essence.


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Old 07-23-2004, 02:20 AM   #3
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Cool. I appreciate it, Mel. I have a good sub method planned that involves a 3 oz bottle, fresh dog urine, and a certain bodily orifice. I shouldn't have a problem with the temp.

Alas, I have no "clean" friends who could spare some urine for me, and because of my build and metabolism, I doubt I'd be able to detox myself in time, barring some sort of miracle. And I'm a little too wary of dilution techniques.

The more I think about planning this, the less worried I am. As long as I don't do something really stupid, I should be able to pull this off. I'll keep everyone posted on the results.
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Old 08-13-2004, 09:05 PM   #4
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Well, I didn't hear back from IBM for a while, but today I just had my formal interview and to make a long story short, I got the job! However, nothing was said to me about performing a drug test; only the criminal background check was mentioned (no problem passing that). I did sign a form to give my consent for a urine and/or blood test, and submit to possible random testing if necessary, though (sucks).

As I have abstained from smoking for several days, I am not too worried about a potential blood test. However, I am still planning on using the dog urine/2oz bottle sub method. I did a dry run today and was not impressed with the results. I collected a fresh sample from my dog (temp 101.3), poured it into an empty, clean 2oz contact (eye) solution bottle with a squirt tip, let the bottle sit in hot tap water for about 15 min, then inserted. I then put on two pairs of undergarments, a pad, and my slacks. I wore this to the interview since I didn't know if the test would take place there or not (I wasn't going to ask and then seem suspicious). In all, I had it in for about 2 hours (yikes!). Not extremely comfortable, I can tell you. Anyway, the test wasn't done, so I went home, removed the bottle (didn't leak!) and squirted the urine into a cup and took the temp. 93.5. That sucks.

Now that I've read a few other threads, I see that squirting the urine in a thin stream can cool it faster (yeah, that would make sense). Unfortunately, if I remove the tip permanently from the bottle, the screw-on cap will leak. I have to remove the tip to fill and clean the bottle, but removing it is a bit*h. Otherwise, this bottle is the perfect size and shape for the type of concealment I am using.

Now that I'm positive the test will be announced, I've considered putting the bottle into an insulated travel mug with hot water, then inserting while in the parking lot at the facility. If I can keep the temp high enough long enough, hopefully it will offset the temp change when I squirt it out of the bottle into the sample cup. I don't know what day the test will be done, but as soon as I attempt this I will post back and let everyone know my results.
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Old 08-14-2004, 02:49 AM   #5
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man, the things people will do for a job

when i had my test at LabCorp, I BELIEVE that the temps had to be 90 degrees or better...so 93.5 might be accepable.

dog urine the same as people urine? i would assume they could tell the difference if any.

what kind of job is it? never heard of this IBM before, must be pretty small
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Old 08-14-2004, 03:24 AM   #6
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man, the things people will do for a job
Desperate times call for desperate measures.

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when i had my test at LabCorp, I BELIEVE that the temps had to be 90 degrees or better...so 93.5 might be accepable.
From what I understand, 93.5 degrees is far too low, considering that normal urine exiting the body is 98.6 or thereabouts.

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dog urine the same as people urine? i would assume they could tell the difference if any.
Actually, there have been a couple of members on this forum who have subbed w/ dog urine and passed. AND, I found out recently that my best friend's old boyfriend used to sub w/ dog urine all of the time and always passed (he was a HUGE pothead, among other things).

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what kind of job is it? never heard of this IBM before, must be pretty small
You ARE kidding, right?
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Old 08-14-2004, 06:57 AM   #7
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Greenbud,

I believe there is an allowable temp range for urine samples, like 90-100 degrees Fahrenheit. They have to allow for cooling, even for the short time from when you go to when you give them the sample, and, contrary to popular myth, not everyones body temp is exactly 98.6 degrees all the time.

That's how it is for DOT tests, anyway.
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Old 08-14-2004, 08:43 AM   #8
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Post ah piss tests

When I took a piss test for my last job they had me pee in to a cup that had the temp gauge on the of it. If my sober (at the time) mind can think clearly the temp read from 93 to 100 F.


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Old 08-14-2004, 05:28 PM   #9
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Don't laugh, it's just a question that has been burning in my mind. How do you get a dog to pee in a cup? My dog wouldn't be quite so cooperative.
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Don't laugh, it's just a question that has been burning in my mind. How do you get a dog to pee in a cup? My dog wouldn't be quite so cooperative.
patience, patience, and again, more patience
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