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jlong

If a lab finds detoxin in urine, is it a crime?

If you pass the quick test where they soak a strip that turns color, are they likely to send the rest of the sample to a lab? If so, how long does it normally take for the results to come back? If they do send it to a lab, do they have to tell you?

 

S2

If its a test required by law like probation or Commercial drivers license, yes there can be legal consequences.

If you pass the initial screeening it is very very rare that the test would then be sent in for addtional analysis unless adulteration was suspected.

Reporting results varies. for the inital screen it rearely takes more than a day or two-- they only report the results to the client-- i.e., the employer if its pre employment.

It is not a good idea to pester for the results if you are not the client-- it raises suspician since a non-user wouldn't even consider failing and wouldnt have much interest in the outcome. employers almost never tellresults, they just move forward iwththe employment process or contact you and tell you sorry but they wont be needing you at this time after all.

Cassius

This may just be a policy of the some companies rather than regulation or law, but I know that many drug testing companies call YOU if you fail and tell you "You tested positive for ______, we are required to tell your (prospective) employer."

So that you at least know the stick is coming down. =/

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ceej7403

Laws regarding obstruction of tests varies from state to state.

jlong

OK, I feel better now. I was hired after the quick screen. The paperwork had a blank space for a lab and it must of been a generic paper. No calls on the subject. No, I did not pester anyone. I know better. What sucks is this company pulls randoms. Any suggestions?

 

Cassius

Many people view random drug testing as an infringement of rights, as an insult, and businesses know this. Therefore, they must have had good reason to implement a policy like this knowing how some employees would view it.

You can therefore either deal with the random drug tests, or find another job. It's unlikely that their policy will ever change, as it would never have been implemented in the first place if they didn't have good reason. (people using heavy machinery, etc)

Now, as for dealing with the random drug tests, it helps to know what kind of test they give you. If they always use a standard employment drug screen, the kind where they don't watch you give the sample, it wouldn't be particularly difficult to get around. You can use substitution each time for an easy, guaranteed success (although that can get expensive the more you do it). The cheapest way would be to find a friend that can give you clean urine, then train yourself in a way to hide it, transport it, and keep it at the proper temperature.

S2

My approach for random testing is to have a substittuion method and concentrated synthetic urine on hand at all times-- in my car if the random test require s a trip to a lab or in my desk/briefcase if they use onsite testing.

Re; reason for policy-- frankly many employers simply do it for the reduction in premium that some companies offer for workman's comp, Liability and medical insurance. Addtionally, if your job requires driving or in some manner putting non-employees at risk, it will be implemented to keep the exposure their lower- Keep in mind the labs want more and more customers and they have a sales force that sells such benefits to prospective customers.

I had a business that required some employees to have Commercial driveres licenses-- I always gave them ample notice to prepare for testing.