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d4rk3

ok this is for the overly-paranoid people out there...

if you passed a home test with the first piss of the day, for god's sake don't go trying to dillute before the "real" test!!! it just seems logical if you are clean, give them a straight up clean piss, no dillution, no nothin. god why risk getting flagged for dillution if YOU KNOW YOU ARE CLEAN?!?! then if you did get flagged, you'd have to come back, therefore delaying your time with MJ (unless you smoked afterwards then get called to come back and drop again).

sorry but i see too many people on here saying they abstained for x amount of days and passed a home test...then say "then i drank water and creatine loaded days before and blah blah blah" ya you could creating load for backup in case you FAILED the home test... but for christ's sake the home tests are very accurate and as long as it's not a test with a cutoff lower than 50 ng/ml ( GC/MS for example) and you passed, YOU ARE FINE!!!

correct me if i'm wrong but does this not make sense? just trying to help

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killavanilla

THC levels in urine fluctuate all day long.
Only follow this advice if you have been clean for over 30 days and have home tested clean several times.
Home tests are not 100% accurate and should not be trusted.
I couldn't disagree more, btw. Why Err on the side of chance? If you get flagged for dilution and have to retest, you've bought yourself more time. Plus, if you follow S2's dilution method, you most likely wont get flagged for dilution at all.
WHy would you give advice like this? Sounds like you want people to fail.
Here's a hard fact:
If you want to get a job with a company that drug test, you may have to stop smoking for a while...
Big deal.
I don't see the point of taking unnecessary risks here. Explain why you would risk even the slight possibility that you might fail just so you could smoke again soon after. I would think that someone who took their career seriously would be able to wait until 2 weeks after the test to start up again. That gives plenty of time to retest if necessary.
Also, I used a dilution method similar to s2's and was probably diluted, but never flagged.
Hence, if you do dilute, you MIGHT not be retested anyway. My company is a fortune 500.
My 2 pennies. Your life is in YOUR hand. Choose your path wisely.

OnProbation

I agree with killavanila 100%. I was clean for 31 days and was BARELY getting a hairline result on a hometest. Thats just how my body is i guess. S2's asprin method seems like it works the best. If you test clean in a home kit and its a tar thick line, you might still fail. If it has been under 30-40 days then i would go with S2's method. You wont get flagged for dillution and you will pass. And its true. If you are trying to get on a good job and you need the money or what not. Dont just wing it because you think your clean of a home test. Failing a UA for that job may mess up your life if you cant get on with them. Same with probation. If your trying to raise a family or just trying to be good, why chance it if you could very easily drink a little water and take a few asprin. Its not like you gato climb to the top of mount everest and grab a bottle of insta clean.
Theres my 2 pennies.

YouLiveAndLearn

Home Tests are very accurate and great indicators of whether or not your clean. If you pass a home test and don't feel better than I don't know what will. Passing a home test with the first urine means your clean whether it is 10 days since your last smoke or 100. Sure if don't feel 100% you could use another the next day but there isn't much point in it.

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d4rk3

goddamn i don't think you guys get it, L&L does though.

my bottom line: if you pass a ****ing home test with the first piss of the day there is a 99% chance you are clean, SO WHY DILLUTE IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO?!! it's as simple as that. and obviously, both of you are on this site because you smoke or at one point smoked herb...so ask yourself this: if you passed your real drug test, just from stopping x amount of days, wouldn't you smoke down?? i mean, most people would (if it's for employment anyways) cuz then you are home free. i'm glad L&L understands...

as for my "path in life" i'm not smoking because it's alot less stressful knowing i don't have to do a bunch of **** every month before a test, and no, i'm not applying for jobs every month

take it or leave it, but chill the **** out

 

killavanilla

So, even the great LiveandLearn disagrees hmmm? Mad respect dre. I disagree.
Here's my point, there is absolutely no guarantee that every single home drug test is accurate an perfect. There are far too many variables, many of which may occur through user error, for a person to rely solely on one home test, first pee of the day.
Example: User buys a home test kit and tosses it in the car, then goes out for dinner and drinks. User gets home 4 or 5 hours later and the test kit itself is very cold. At this point, user sees the label on the package saying 'do not freeze. store at room temperatue.'. Do you still think his 'passed' test taken the next morning is accurate?
Cause this actually happened to me, and I retested the next day and failed.
HENCE, I don't buy it.
No test is perfect.
What if you find out that the home test was a 50 and the real test is a 20?
What if the kit itself was damaged iimperceptably during shipping?
What if you are buying a BS kit off of ebay and don't know it?
What if the some overtired, underpaid worker made a tiny mistake?
What if you administer the test incorrectly?
I can appreciate the peace of mind a home test gave me, but I am not willing to take that kind of risk. I used my home test kits to make sure that I CAN test clean. Then I chose my path to even-ing up the chances of passing. I need my job and have bills to pay. A fail would be devastating. Why should I risk just 'cause I got passed a $5 kit I got off of ebay?
Seems unreasonable to advise people to rely on one test result.
All I'm saying.......
It amounts to a difference of opinion. I say err on the side of caution. You are implying that you should throw caution to the wind because you bought a cheap home kit.
peace

YouLiveAndLearn

If you are able to pass the 50 ng/ml test with the first urine of the day and then are smart enough to use a mid-stream sample you'll MOST likely still pass a 20 ng/ml test.

I haven't heard of any bogus drug tests on eBay but if you are that nervous then either order off a respected website or from your local pharmacy

It really isn't that terribly hard to administer a home test and if you can't do it correctly you probably deserve to fail the test.

As I posted above though if you pass one test with the first urine of the day and still don't have that piece of mind then go ahead and use another. If you pass TWO with the FIRST urine of the day then I can say you have nothing to worry about. Give a mid-stream sample and drink a nice tall glass of water and you'll pass.

I respect your opinion and points. I'm glad to see another member has taken time to post and help other people out with the knowledge they've obtained.

killavanilla

I did pass and I did smoke. Just not before I knew I would pass. Get it? Until you can verify passing, why chance it? And if you figure on 99% of those who rely on a home screen passing, that means you agree that 1% will probably fail. If that 1% read your email, they probably wouldn't appreciate your advice very much.
I could care less about your "path", why you choose to smoke or not smoke or the frequency with which you apply for jobs. What I DO care about is the idea of giving people an opportunity to get the BEST advice for their situation. I'm not sure that your suggestion falls under a "must" but rather "a consideration" at best. I don't even know why you brought this up, but I can tell you that the longer you stay clean, the easier it will be to get a job that you don't apply for every month.

That said, peace brother. I am not in need of chillin bc I am not acting un-chill. No need to fight. You offered an opinion and I argued against it. No need to get upset. It seems like you may have taken my post as an attack on you. It was an attack on your idea.

StealMyFluids

Anyone with a name like KillaVanilla should not be listened to.
Seriously what motivates your arguement, you are wrong, you have been broken down with facts.
If you can not see the logic, i personally will buy you one ticket to "funny town".

KillaVanilla-
"I am not in need of chillin bc I am not acting un-chill."

You just made everyone in this forum loose 10 IQ points, how do you feel about that?

Wizard1

Wow...No need for all that.
Here are facts .......Home tests are very accurate, and are, from my research the same as the ones used for employment or by a PO. Fact...Home tests are NOT 100% reliable. Insta view, for example, verified there results with the GC. They are in the 96 percentile for accuraccy. Some urine which tested 46 ng on the GC test (technicaly below cut off) , came up positive on the dipstick. Some unrine which tested 60 ng on the GC came up negative on the dipstick. Follow me? They are a very realiable "point of reference". While 96% accurate is pretty damn good..... That is not good enough for me!! I will take the time and use carefull diltution even after passing a home test any day. That is just me. THC levels in ones urine, DO fluctuate. If you pass at 50 ng with a home test....there is NO GAURANTEE you pass one at 20ng. I'm not bashing anyone's username, I appreciate everyones opinion here, and I don't claim to be smarter than the next guy buy any means. I'm not!! But after experimenting with probably 30 to 40 home tests, under different circumstances, and hours and hours of research from multiple sources.....and much great information gathered here from guys like N2..Mel...S2 (thanks dudes) I can say this....If you pass a home test, without diluting your urine, your chances of passing the real test are very good.... But not gauranteed. Err on the side of caution sounds very logical to me. There is no harm to a little extra insurance, and peace of mind.
Thanks for letting me express my thoughts here.
That's what makes this site so great!!
Wizard