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Old 02-18-2005, 12:55 AM   #1
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I am a 27 yr old male, 5'7" and 180 pounds with extra weight around the mid-section. I walk a mile or so a day but am not a heavy exerciser at all. I have a fast metabolism.

I get UA'ed at a treatment center as a condition of my probation. They send it to a lab and the slip comes back marked either "detected" or "undetected" - never noticed if it has numbers/levels on it bc it's never been an issue that I might fail.

I had a UA test done on Tuesday night and unfortunately hadn't found this forum until after the fact so I didn't dilute. I smoke maybe once a week, twice tops, 2 or 3 hits at a time. The last time I smoked was 2 hits on Saturday night and before that it had been almost a week, and before that not for like 3 weeks (was sick). I never smoked at all up until like 3 months ago and went through a phase of smoking a few hits every night for the first few weeks.

Tuesday I did one of those Heaven Sent UA flush drinks with the substitution/non-dilute pills, and I drank about 72 oz of water between afternoon and my test time which was approx 7 PM. My urine was fairly bright yellow due to the pills that came with the UA Flush product.

I freaked out when I got home and went to Walgreens and bought a home test after finding this forum (didn't know about them before). I took the home test after dinner at around 11:30 PM, 4.5 hrs post-UA, and it came out negative, however with a VERY faint line.

What are the chances that I passed? Will they test for extra high creatine levels from the drink to see if you're trying to fake them out (rumors I've heard) and, most importantly, does the post-UA home test's faint, faint line mean that the lab numbers might be high enough to still be detected on the lab test? The guy at the center said that the Flush products don't work and that's the impression I get here too. I'm almost done with treatment, this is my last UA, and am kicking myself for not abstaining completely.

I should find out the results tomorrow and will be sleepless tonight for sure.
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Old 02-18-2005, 07:09 AM   #2
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don't worry, you passed. "flush" products is a joke, ya sure, lets flush out all those nasty thc metabolites on the same day as your test... lol, it's a good thing they don't work like that, but what they really are is expensive placebos, but drinking the 72 oz of water WAS dilution, and i'm sure that expensive detox drink or whatever gave it some color, though it was probably glowing... though a simple 5 cent vitamin B2 would've probably colored it better. they might be able to tell you used the drink, but it's not by extra creatine levels because they don't check for creatine levels, they check for creatinine levels, which requires the creatine be taken at least 24 hours in advance so it can metabolize into the creatinine. so if they check the creatinine levels or the specific gravity, they might say it's too diluted, but maybe they won't check that if you're lucky. if it does and they retest you be sure to take the creatine supplements starting a few days in advance, and then just drink a 2-3 quarts of gatorade and take a bunch of aspirin and vitamin B2 before the test like the methods detailed in the sticky thread at the top of this forum. but the negative on the home test a few hours after the real one is a pretty valid indication that you passed just fine on the standard thc cutoff for EMIT though.... and they usually won't do the GC/MS test if you pass the EMIT, especially on probation... it doesn't seem like they even normally use it to confirm positives on the EMIT. also if this is your first test within 30 days of being placed on probation, then they usually won't send ya to jail or anything, but they will know to keep checking you closely to make sure you stay clean from here on out. good luck
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Old 02-18-2005, 11:27 PM   #3
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It worked!! I passed. Thank you so much for your supportive post, it helped a lot at 5 AM when I was still not sleeping. I will post a link to this in the results thread.
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