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notagain

I am 6"1" and 270# and I have not been exercising regularly. I haven't been tested in 10 years and thought I was safe. I had quit for about a month, then smoked at Mardi gras and the next weekend. I smoked on Friday (split a bowl), Saturday (split a bowl) and a few puffs Sunday. This stuff is not that good. I have to take a test on Monday for a random drug screen. I bought a Dual Clean stuff at a pipe shop for $50. I also have a bottle of quik fix my girlfriend gave me without the wamr up pad,

I got a home kit from a lab here and after drinking lots of water today I passed everything but the THC line is very faint?? You can see it but it is much fainter than the rest. What does this mean?

I am thinking of doin some aspirin, diluting, and takeing the purchased stuff and also warming up the quik fix and putting on 2 pairs of tighy whities. I heard that Secon watches you in the mirror so I may nit be able to sub. What do y'all think?

 

notagain

I'm sorry I found out on Monday, today 2/21/2005 that I have to take the test tomorrow sometime before 5PM.

Wizard1

A faint line ..technically means you passed....but I always consider a very faint line as a fail....and dilute. I've tested myself dozens of times...when I'm completely clean...that line shows up very quickly, and the line is usually very bright....almost never as bright as the control line....but is abundantly clear that I passed that test. Keep in mind, thc metabolite levels fluxuate in ones urine. You might pass at 6:00 pm at night...wake up the next morning and fail. I consider a very faint line to mean you are right at the cut off level, and could need a few more days to a week to get clean..(even then, I don't think your comletely clean.....just well below average cut off levels.) In your situation, I would consider diluting ..very seriously!! You might want to read N2's and S2's dilution guidlines posted on this site. Many have had success with them...myself included. It is my opinion that you could pass your test if you dilute correctally. If you can...test your self before you go for the "real thing".
Best of luck to you.....Hope you'll come back and post your results, and how you passed.
Wizard
(this is of course, from MY experience...perhaps others would concure)
Peace

notagain

Do you think I will be OK to take the aspirin and the dual clean? I know someone that passed with the dual clean after 5 days. I'm thinking of getting up real early and start with the aspirin and 1 multivitamin and rolaids. The 4 hours before the test, take the dual clean, being sure to pee 3 or 4 times at least before I go to the P station. What do you think Wizard?

Locutus

using the synthetic urine as your primary option if possible is a good idea, but without using a warmer pad, it may get too cold on you. so i would advise getting a replacement heat pad... they sell those peel and stick ones at most pharmacies now, or maybe a handwarmer. also check to make sure it's the current version 4.0 and is dated fresh... and why was the warmer missing, was that sample warmed up before?

then for the backup plan, since the line was very faint on your home test AFTER drinking lots of water, then you would need to improve your dilution method considerably (if possible) to get any better results. i would not recommend using the dual-clean drink. i've failed with those type of things a couple of times. do not believe their misleading marketing or guarantees. i would take it back where you bought it for a refund if i were you. chances are it will make your piss glow abnormally bright, while not really helping much more than a quart of gatorade and a vitamin B2. in your case i'd recommend 3 quarts of gatorade, 1 each hour, starting 3 hours before your test. follow the method in the sticky closely as you can. for example, if you take the aspirin and rolaids more than 4 hours before your test as you implied, they will most likely be all pissed away too soon. that's why they are to be taken spread out around the 1-2-3 hour marks instead. have you been taking any creatine supplements? just curious, it's too late now, but if you haven't and they check it the creatinine levels for dilution it could be problem... so maybe just drink 2 quarts then, but try to prepiss 5 or 6 times if you can, pre-test yourself again like wizard1 said, if the line is still too faint then drink the 3rd quart and pre-piss a few more times to dilute a little more... and then if you can't sub, be sure to use the mid-stream technique for the cup... ya know? even a faint line is passing, so i'm sure you can do this without using any expensive placebo drinks to mess it up. good luck

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d4rk3

i completley disagree about the "intensity" of a line on a home test. i used to think the same thing "fainter the line, the closer YOU were to 50 ng/ml" i recently proved myself wrong...

after i quit for 10 days (was clean before i smoked, which only took 14 days ) i used my first piss of the day on a home test. i got a very faint line, very very faint. but it was there. relieved but still kinda skeptical, i bought another after i got off work, about 10 hours later or so, and got a more noticeable but still faint line.

so i figured "hey, atleast i'm under 50, probably just under but not by much

wrong!

the next day i passed my test which gives you a readout of your thc metabolite level (x ng/ml) for security reasons...let's just say i was under 15 ng/ml, so i could've passed a gc/ms if i had to...in 11 days total!

so, my new theory:
regardless of intensity of the line (and even the manual says, "any line is considered a negative, regardless of intensity) YOU ARE CLEAN. wizard1, i would reconsider your statement how a faint line is a fail, if you are clean then why dillute anyway? if you get flagged, they might test your hair, then you're %&$^#^ if you don't wanna put a bunch of chemicals and tide and 5h!t in your hair.

to summarize, i believe the line that appears for a negative, is under 50 ng/ml regardless or intensity. dark line, faint line, doesn't matter, nor do i think it represents the level of thc metabolites in your piss by darkening the line

my 2 cents, biotch

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d4rk3

d4rk3

but, like wizard said, thc levels fluctuate in you throughout the day, so maybe the intensity of the line IS darker for closer to 50, fainter for more towards 0...i dunno. i thought about that but i would think that since my test was like 14 hours after my first home test of the day, i would think that my levels would have been down for my second home test, even though the line was darker on the second one...

thoughts?

by the way man, when you home test yourself, the key is to NOT dillute for them, the whole purpose is to see if you're clean right? not to "beat" the home test...if anything use it to practice your dillution strategy, like you have been doing. much luck

Locutus

but d4rk3, are you sure you didn't drink more water or do anything differently such as more pre-pissing or using the mid-steam technique on the day of your test compared to your home tests? i've also seen pics from some people who tested themselves several times and watched the line get darker over the days as they got cleaner. test the piss of a known clean family member and see if you get a faint line. i think it is possible to improve the results, though it may not really be necessary... but it's better to be safe and do the absolute best job you can if passing the test is very important to you, imho

notagain

I only got to read Wizard1's first response to my thread before I took the test. It sucks because I convinced mtself that I couldn't sub based on someone who went to the same pee station about one month ago for probation and he said the guy was right behind him and there was a mirror in front of the toilet. NOT TRUE> They put me in a broom closet looking room with a urinal and no ceiling, I closed the door, no colored water either. In fact I swear I flushed the thing as I was going out because he didn't say not to. I went to wash my hands and I heard they tester guy tell the tester girl that "there isn't anything in there". Must mean the blue. Would they test differently for probation and require a mirror?

Anyway, this is what I did. After I took that home test like 6 PM last night (and got the faint line), I started really drinking, at least a gallon and of about half water and half gatorade, then did a multivitamin & 3 rolaids last night about 10PM. I also I did about 4 excedrins yesterday morning at two different times (didn't have the regular aspirin yet). Went to sleep at 1 AM and got up at 7AM. Didn't eat. Had 3 aspirins (325mg), a multivitamin and 3 rolaids at 8:30, drank 2 hot teas and 1 quart of water. At 9:30 I took three aspirins and 3 rolaids. Then in about ten minutes, I drank the dual clean and took the four pills that come with it. It contains, creatine, riboflavin and some other stuff. The little bottle says it has the power of 20, 16oz bottles of fluid (sounds like a superhero). By 10: 30 I had drank 2 quarts of gatoraid and 1 quart of water and was peeing a nice Parkay lite yellow (it really wasn't bright yellow but was definitely yellow). Then on the way to the pee place, I took three more aspirin and most of another quart of water. I took the test and then got another home test kit from a different drug test place and this time the line was darker. In fact it is nice and dark for the first half of the line and then it fades to a light line in the second half. It was noticeably darker. I will keep y'all posted. I think it is cruel to test a man in South Louisiana after there is Mardi Gras and Super Bowl Sunday on the same weekend. Just cruel.

d4rk3

positive, i just was up all night from my first test, didn't dillute, do mid-stream or anything (same with the home test, piss right into the cup, the dirtiest sample). the only difference from the home test, like i said, i was up all night (i work at night) so it was probably like my 10th piss of the day (estimated).

as for the line thing, it's just my theory, you could be right about the intensity getting darker if you're getting cleaner. i just wanted to get my point across, even if it's faint, a line is a line. you're clean, don't friggin worry.

atleast i don't, i get more and more faith in my metabolism every month