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Old 03-24-2005, 02:00 AM   #1
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Can anyone confirm with any real info that a male can use female urine without red flags.

I know I have seen mention of variations in Ph balance... and then of course if the female is taking birth control it seems like this could add trouble.

Im a daily smoker, my girlfriend is not... perfect for a clean sample.

But she takes birthcontrol....

I have a shot a big dollar job... that last time I went thru this I had plenty of time to clean out naturally, but even after 30+ days I was still showing positive on home tests.

If I REALLY drag out this interview process, I might be able to buy about 2 weeks... I dont want to risk it. I need to substitute.

Any info on PH and birthcontrol will be greatly appreciated.

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Drug tests test for drugs. They don't test for hormones. The differences in Ph are well within standards.
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Old 03-24-2005, 03:53 AM   #3
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no one else has heard the substitution horror story....

Guy goes in... does his thing...

test comes back negative for drugs... positive for pregnancy...
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It was about five years ago, that I had to sweat a pre-employment test.
it just seems that somewhere in my research, the information sounded as if once they had the sample.

They check temp.
then test Ph to sex the sample.

I didnt pay much attention back then, as I had plenty of time to detox...
but after 30 days, I was still showing positive. I then did a 7 day detox kit from the pharmacy store, and was fine after that.

Im slender and fit, active, but no real exercise program.... after last time, I believe that 2 weeks is too soon, even for the 7 day detox kit.

I cant think of any male friends that are non-smokers, that would help me out.

Im sweating the female sample.
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It is against the law for them to test for gender unless you sign a form authorizing it. Gender testing is expensive and rarely done, and you can bet they're not going to waste money on that for a pre-employment test. pH is tested to see if the sample has been tampered with....it has nothing to do with gender.
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