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Old 05-07-2005, 05:57 PM   #1
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Post Need Opinions On Possible Substitution/Dilution Combo

Ok, without getting into details of my upcoming test and height/weight/metabolism (I feel well informed and researched on testing/passing info) I would like the community's (especially the Mods) opinion of possibly combining the substitution and dilution methods.

Allow me to explain.....I would LOVE to substitute but I know NOONE who doesnt smoke......Parents/Siblings/Friends/Neighbors included. I am wondering if one could smuggle in some clean water (with salt diluted perhaps?) the same way as they would smuggle in clean urine (crotched bottle) to add to a midstream urine sample.......this would eliminate the blue water problem, as well as further dilute the sample......I would Plan on stacking this with the dilution method, and of course it would require ACCURATE/INTENSE creatine loading, temperature control, and specific gravity loading, and would run the risk of reducing the aspirin techniques effectiveness, but may prove the ultimate dilution method.....Im not TOO worried about a diluted result as I will be taking the test just after I get off of work at my current job (UPS), and would defend a diluted sample with my EXTREME water intake/sweating at this job.....at least enough to get a retest due to dilution, buying me a few more days to reschedule my test........

QUESTIONS.......

Would the urine/water mix thoroughly? ( I would Assume So)
Would using Mineral Water help with specific gravity in this situation?
If not, what water might be best for this technique?
Could one dilute salt in the water (by boiling and using thin flake salt maybe?) to help specific gravity situation?
Would it just be better to MILDLY use dilution/aspirin method and MOSTLY rely on the added water for dilution, thus helping creatine levels/specific gravity?
Is there any research/knowledge about directly adding thin flake salt to a dilution method sample to increase specific gravity?
Any other advice/experience in adding "common" or "naturally occuring" items like salt/rolaids/aspirin to a urine sample directly (powdered form of course)?

Thanks All,

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Old 05-08-2005, 06:43 PM   #2
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You should check out some of the synthetic urine on the internet. That stuff is guaranteed to pass, just gotta pass the temperature part and you're set. They don't sell that stuff to certain states though so make sure to call the website to see.
I think substitution is the best method since they don't watch you unless its for probatoin or you are being retested for dilution or some other problem.

And if you can't get internet piss, just find a little kid and give him 5-10 buycks for his piss.

Good luck,
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