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sixty7droptop · 05-16-2005, 06:33 PM

I was wondering if anyone had tried any of the urined additves??? Appearently at my new job, they love to give randoms from what I hear from employees. Instead of going to work with a shampoo bottle of piss in my crotch everyday I was tihnking about keeping a urine additive packet in my wallet. Does anyone have any opinions or experience on which ones work and which dont?

IamN2pot · 05-17-2005, 03:01 AM

The additives craps shoot is not if they work, but rather if the test choosen by your employer does a urine validity check for the choosen additive/addultrate. I must say that I have recenty read reports that some of the newest formulas of additives are designed to destroy the metabolites and then neutralise themself so that it is undetectable. Personally, I feel it is at best a cat and mouse game. MedTox, LabCorp, etc can buy the same additive you can. The question becomes can they devise a detection test before the formula is changed. If so, your caught. The synthetics, on the other hand work 100% of the time because they containe all the constituants of urine that can possibly be tested for in the urine validity test and are of course drug free. They are still undetectable in lab drug testing.
Hope that helps. N2

sixty7droptop · 05-17-2005, 08:16 PM

Ok. Makes absolute sense. I know the best way to beat a random is to not smoke but come on now, nothings more satisfying than a bowl of some nugs after a long days work. I thought of some more questions. One, What in the hell is the difference between a drug screen and a drug test? Two, I was told by my employer that the randoms are done on site. Could one assume that they are just doing a dip test or that they just come to collect piss and then take it away to the lab? I want to be able to smoke every now and then and I thought about stitching an extra pocket in the inside of my uniform to secretly hold an additive just in case they ever do pull a random on me. From what I have read appearently the liquids work better than the powders because of solubility concerns. Anyone vouch? As for the new additives that neutralize themselves do you have any links or names of the products?

IamN2pot · 05-18-2005, 12:20 PM

Drug screens are immunoassay test. They screen out all 31 marijuana metabolites and any thing that resembles one of the 31. They have a cutoff of 50ng/mL for the total count of all metabolites.
A test is generally a GC/MS test. It ID's and counts only 1 specific marijuana metabolite, THC COOH (THCA) and thus have a lower cutoff of 15ng/mL. Try www.urineluck.com for additive and substitution products. Hope that helps. N2

05-16-2005, 06:33 PM	#1
sixty7droptop New Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7 Grams: 666.50 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Urine Additives: What Really Works?!?!?!? I was wondering if anyone had tried any of the urined additves??? Appearently at my new job, they love to give randoms from what I hear from employees. Instead of going to work with a shampoo bottle of piss in my crotch everyday I was tihnking about keeping a urine additive packet in my wallet. Does anyone have any opinions or experience on which ones work and which dont?

05-17-2005, 03:01 AM	#2
IamN2pot Seasoned Activist Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,284 Grams: 3,933.50 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 25 Times in 6 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	The additives craps shoot is not if they work, but rather if the test choosen by your employer does a urine validity check for the choosen additive/addultrate. I must say that I have recenty read reports that some of the newest formulas of additives are designed to destroy the metabolites and then neutralise themself so that it is undetectable. Personally, I feel it is at best a cat and mouse game. MedTox, LabCorp, etc can buy the same additive you can. The question becomes can they devise a detection test before the formula is changed. If so, your caught. The synthetics, on the other hand work 100% of the time because they containe all the constituants of urine that can possibly be tested for in the urine validity test and are of course drug free. They are still undetectable in lab drug testing. Hope that helps. N2 __________________ SUBSTITUTION DILUTION Marijuana.Com Posting Guideline “They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security”. Benjamin Franklin

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05-17-2005, 08:16 PM	#3
sixty7droptop New Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7 Grams: 666.50 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Ok. Makes absolute sense. I know the best way to beat a random is to not smoke but come on now, nothings more satisfying than a bowl of some nugs after a long days work. I thought of some more questions. One, What in the hell is the difference between a drug screen and a drug test? Two, I was told by my employer that the randoms are done on site. Could one assume that they are just doing a dip test or that they just come to collect piss and then take it away to the lab? I want to be able to smoke every now and then and I thought about stitching an extra pocket in the inside of my uniform to secretly hold an additive just in case they ever do pull a random on me. From what I have read appearently the liquids work better than the powders because of solubility concerns. Anyone vouch? As for the new additives that neutralize themselves do you have any links or names of the products?

05-18-2005, 12:20 PM	#4
IamN2pot Seasoned Activist Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,284 Grams: 3,933.50 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 25 Times in 6 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Drug screens are immunoassay test. They screen out all 31 marijuana metabolites and any thing that resembles one of the 31. They have a cutoff of 50ng/mL for the total count of all metabolites. A test is generally a GC/MS test. It ID's and counts only 1 specific marijuana metabolite, THC COOH (THCA) and thus have a lower cutoff of 15ng/mL. Try www.urineluck.com for additive and substitution products. Hope that helps. N2

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