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Old 06-06-2005, 07:59 AM   #1
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hello everybody,
I just got a pretty sweet job doing mechanical engineering type stuff. after the interview and having been told i'm in, the dude tells me "HR will probably have you piss in a cup or something, i don't know how things are in college these days" of course i told the dude it would be no problem, but fact of the matter is that i've smoked about a gram a day for the past 6-7 months, and i only have about 3 weeks until they want me to start working. I've been doing mad research ever since that interview, but i'm finding mixed results. to be honest, i don't think i have the huevos to bust the sub method, but i have friends who swear by the GNC drinks, and 40-50 bucks is not an issue when comparing it to the money i'm going to be making with this company. I'm 5-9 about 185 (not the fastest metabolism) and play competitive soccer 3 days a week. of course now, i'm running two miles daily as well... can i get by diluting what is hopefully an already decently clean pee sample? I've been on the gallon a day plan, but i've also read that it is a myth.... can somebody please give me some type of foolproof plan??

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Old 06-06-2005, 01:26 PM   #2
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I understand that the money may appear attractive, but remember that they are not paying you for your time when not at work.

Find a smaller company that pays less, but respects you more. After all, where will it end? Will you next agree to join the company religion?

And what of the effects of such policies on your coworkers, do you think you are going to like working with folks who drink heavily and pop pills to relax?

Just my radical opinion, but I think that those who insist on making sure others are deprived of dopamine are high themselves.

Actually, it's not just my opinion, as known prohibitionists tactics led me to realize we are on to something about our opponent's motives:

1. They avoid admitting prison causes far more harm

2. They use circular logic, "It's dangerous because you can get arrested"

Why? Perhaps it's because:

3. They like seeing others suffer:

from: http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=51377

1.41pm - She's found guilty. Shouts ring out. Cheers from the anti-drugs campaigners.

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http://www.onderzoekinformatie.nl/en...ek/OND1295575/

Titel 'Wanneer mensen uit de gunst raken': wanneer en waarom is er sprake van leedvermaak

Abstract The aim of this project is to study two main questions. First, when do people experience Schadenfreude (pleasure in the misfortune of others)? Second, why do people experience Schadenfreude?

To answer the first question, two survey studies are conducted. With help of the autobiographical narratives collected in these studies, taxonomy is made of the situations in which Schadenfreude is experienced.

Also, in these studies, factors of influence on the experience of Schadenfreude (when, how, how much) are investigated. The second question is answered by conducting four experimental studies. The point of departure in these studies is that someone else s misfortune gives pleasure because of the advantage it provides us with.

Someone else s misfortune may be gain for us, as it enhances our position. Schadenfreude can be an expression of the need to improve our self-esteem over other people s sufferings. Because this need to improve our self-esteem will be strongest in situations where self-esteem is under threat, we expect that people will experience Schadenfreude in mainly these situations.

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Brain Rewards For Carrying Out Altruistic Punishment

http://www.futurepundit.com/archives...ical_mind.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...7/ixworld.html

The Swiss brain imaging study reveals how we draw satisfaction from teaching strangers a lesson when they have behaved badly, part of a rapidly-emerging field of neuroeconomics.As the journal Science puts it, the study reveals what goes on in Dirty Harry's head when "he succinctly informs a norm violator that he anticipates deriving satisfaction from inflicting altruistic punishment".

For the study, Dominique de Quervain, Urs Fischbacher and Prof Ernst Fehr from the University of Zurich scanned the brain activity of male volunteers participating in a game of exchanging money back and forth. If one player made a selfish choice instead of a mutually beneficial one, the other could penalise him. The majority of the players chose to impose the penalty even when it cost some of their own money.

The researchers determined that deciding to impose this penalty, an altruistic punishment, activated a brain region, the dorsal striatum, involved in experiencing enjoyment or satisfaction.The dorsal striatum and its most important part, the caudate nucleus, form part of a "reward circuit".

The team also found that those who experienced greater activation of this area, measured by increased blood flow, meted out greater punishment."Our results indicate that punishment of unfair behaviour is driven by the anticipated satisfaction from punishing (or getting even)," said Prof Fehr.

see also: http://www.sci-tech-today.com/story....story_id=26598



Good luck deciding on the drug test issue, I know it's a tough call when there is real money involved.

My best guess if you must live "in the closet", as it were:
Take the stuff now, and change your exercise regimen to keep you sweating and replenishing fluids for the remainder of the three weeks, then take a home test prior.

Decline to accept the position if you still test positive, or simply woke up and smelled the coffee.

BTW, I am actually seeking a mechanical engineer with an understanding of linear motors. It's a small project, but there will be residual pay based on actual sales, something your employer may be hesitant to offer . . .

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you should get a friend who doesn't smoke to pee in a bag or sealed container and put it in your pants, then when you're supposed to pee in a cup, pour it into a cup. Sounds a bit gross, but it's a solution.
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I'm not sure how to use this site but I'm making an attempt.
A week ago Friday night I smoked some pot with an old friend but I hadn't smoked before that for 3-4 years. Of course the next week I get a job offer and I needed to be tested. I did the dilute method Friday morning last week before the test.
Today they called and said I had to do it again. The sample was diluted (caught!) My question is should I just do the sample tomorrow and not worry. That shoud be over 10 days from when I smoked.
I only did a few hits but it was strong stuff. I am 5'1 and weight 125. 57 years old and moderately active.
Any ideas on what I should do to get a clear test?
Thanks!!!
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there is a 75% chance you are clean, try to extend it an extra day to be sure, and get a home test its 15$
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wow, and i thought this site was helpful. thanks for the great advice jose melendez. i'm guessing you are a successful business man who happened to be online at 430am reading posts on marijuana.com.....
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