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View Poll Results: Do You Use Quick Fix 4.0?
Do You Use Quick Fix? 23 56.10%
Do You Use Another Product? 9 21.95%
Did You Contact Spectrum Labs? 11 26.83%
Did They Tell It Was For Legal Reasons? 9 21.95%
Did They Tell It Was Because Of Government Lawyers'? 5 12.20%
Do You Think Will These Results Will Effect Your Sub Method? 6 14.63%
Have You Passed Using Quick Fix In The Past? 20 48.78%
Did You Sub? Using A Non Toking of MJ Person's Urine? 16 39.02%
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Old 10-11-2005, 04:26 PM   #1
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Exclamation What Does The Spectrum Labs "No Guarantee" Policy Mean To You?

After I got back to my truck I noticed the QF heat pack was still hot after 12 hours in a jacket pocket I hid the empty container in. I mean really hot. So everyone reading this their new heat packs are the truth. So I decided to look at the box because the bottle and cap has slightly changed as well. I then noticed I had some papers that came in the package that was mailed to me one one of the booklets it said "spectrum labs can no longer 200% guarantee products. effective September 2005". Im now concerned. If anyone out there knows the reason please share your knowledge, because no guarantee makes me nervous.
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Old 10-11-2005, 07:07 PM   #2
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After I got back to my truck I noticed the QF heat pack was still hot after 12 hours in a jacket pocket I hid the empty container in. I mean really hot. So everyone reading this their new heat packs are the truth. So I decided to look at the box because the bottle and cap has slightly changed as well. I then noticed I had some papers that came in the package that was mailed to me one one of the booklets it said "spectrum labs can no longer 200% guarantee products. effective September 2005". Im now concerned. If anyone out there knows the reason please share your knowledge, because no guarantee makes me nervous.
Email Customer Service and ask why.
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Old 10-11-2005, 07:16 PM   #3
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Email Customer Service and ask why.
I just called Spectrum Labs and they told it was for legal reasons that there is NO 200% Guarantee. The government put the handle down on them. She said it the same as before and you will pass, but they can not guarantee you for legal reasons.
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Old 10-11-2005, 07:29 PM   #4
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Thanks for the research GM. That was the best news I heard all day. I had been thinking the worst. Maybe someone has been caught and other things of that nature has been going through my mind all night. But maybe Ill be alright. I sure like this truck they put me in. I dont want to go home.
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Thanks for the research GM. That was the best news I heard all day. I had been thinking the worst. Maybe someone has been caught and other things of that nature has been going through my mind all night. But maybe Ill be alright. I sure like this truck they put me in. I dont want to go home.
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Old 10-11-2005, 09:02 PM   #6
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it works 98% of the time... some times the nurse will sniff it and say its not real pee but not everyone's pee smells espealicly if u dont drink beer, coffee, or colas or tea. Also lately here in canada they have been testing for creatine lvls and i belive this is also how it can be detected this is rare most places but the oil industry has a lot of money and they test everyone everywhere all the time for any reason they can come up with. I sell it mostly as a pee delivery system
for some friends clean sample but it is the only good way to pass the mass sec test at 15 nanograms . but no creatine test testing is done as smaple is distroyed in the first test.
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Default So, That Not A Good Reason

They need to upgrade Their Product!
Many Members' have counted on this product, and have invested into the product development, by being customers. Now they, Spectrum, needs to step it up and find a solution!
I am not thinking about myself, but all of US, here at MJ.com. If we all start calling and get different reasons for the New Policy.
I will not support the use of their products.
Remember, I'm not thinking for myself, but the MJ Board, and that passes out data to your knowledge Database.
We Need Answers!
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it works 98% of the time... some times the nurse will sniff it and say its not real pee
This is extremely odd. Sounds like the nurse either loves the collection job a little too much, or she/he has a fetish for watersports (LOL). Does this nurse arbitarily sniff every sample that comes into the facility? What if the sample you gave was a human sample, complete with its funk? (shudder)

It would only take that kind of sick individual to handle sniffing different samples each and every day. (gag)
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Also lately here in canada they have been testing for creatine lvls and i belive this is also how it can be detected
The labs do test for creatnine here in the States, but as long as the QF is fresh and not old, it will pass all the integrity checks, including creatnine. My frequent home testing of my QF batches (using the Urinecheck 7 test stick) confirms all of this over and over again, as does the actual field drug tests and integ checks .

Also, Canadian users should only use the Canadian version of the QF 4.0, and not the US version. The Canadian batch has a vial of crystals that needs to be added after pouring the QF into the sample cup. The vial of crystals are required for the QF to pass the additional integrity checks of Canadian drug testing.
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This is extremely odd. Sounds like the nurse either loves the collection job a little too much, or she/he has a fetish for watersports (LOL). Does this nurse arbitarily sniff every sample that comes into the facility? What if the sample you gave was a human sample, complete with its funk? (shudder)

It would only take that kind of sick individual to handle sniffing different samples each and every day. (gag)
The labs do test for creatnine here in the States, but as long as the QF is fresh and not old, it will pass all the integrity checks, including creatnine. My frequent home testing of my QF batches (using the Urinecheck 7 test stick) confirms all of this over and over again, as does the actual field drug tests and integ checks .

Also, Canadian users should only use the Canadian version of the QF 4.0, and not the US version. The Canadian batch has a vial of crystals that needs to be added after pouring the QF into the sample cup. The vial of crystals are required for the QF to pass the additional integrity checks of Canadian drug testing.
Thank for your input LEW. I think you know what it takes. Help Us!
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He gave me permission to post it.

I'm a little shocked at Spectrums policy to withdraw its guarantee from the QF 4.0. However, this new policy apparently has no effect on individuals who want to make exchanges from old batch to new batch. I am currently waiting on a return E-mail from Spectrum to confirm all this.

I think I may have a grasp of sorts to the reason why the Spectrum rep had cited "legal reasons" for the guarantee withdrawal. They have probably caught wind of the same piece of news that I had came across over the weekend. This is what I had discovered:

The following bill was introduced into the House of Representatives. It is entitled 'The Drug Testing Integrity Act of 2005' and will make most of the products currently available illegal. The text of the resolution can be found at:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.R.2802.IH:


I'm sorry to have to be the bearer of such terrible news, but it really looks like the bill is gonna pass, effectively spelling the end of the line for the detox industry for sure.

Looks like I have to once again stock up on frozen human samples.
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