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Old 12-04-2005, 08:55 PM   #1
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I replied to the last message, but wanted to start a new thread so I started over. Thanks for everyones help. I have been reading through these threads the last couple of days trying to figure out the best way to make this happen. I now have some questions I thought I would throw out there and see what kind of responses I get. I can see that some prefer the substitution while other prefer dillution. If you had your choice, which method is the easiest and most sufficient? Also, when doing the dillution, I can see some have talked down on the Readyclean and different products you can buy. Is this just because they cost money? Or, by loading your body full of viatamins, does it work better than just paying 30-40 bucks and doing it that way? If they work the same, I will pay the money. Instead of trying to put a perfect formula together of viatamins and water ect, why not just pay the 30 bucks for the drink?

I have just read so many ways to make this happen and need the most consistant. Dillution or substitutioin?? And if dillution, what is the best process? Loading your body, or buying the drinks? Also, for folks that use the drinks, what has been the most successfull? Vales?

I can also see that many people partake all the way up to the day of the test. I am going to "try" and make it 20-25 days without. Knowing this info, which option is the best for me. 6'5 170lbs, been hitting the strongest for 2 years straight.

Also, I have heard people talk about the strength of the pot when asking if they will pass their test. What about hash? Will that stay even longer?
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Old 12-04-2005, 09:53 PM   #2
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Thumbs up 20-25 will be about right

Noticing your height/weight, it appears you probably have little fat on you...and that is where those nasty THC Metabolites love to stay. I am 5'11'' and weight 175 lbs. I took 26 days to pass on "1st" piss of the day (the dirtiest). However, had I took the 3rd piss, I probably would have passed a little sooner. The best thing to do, is buy you a THC strip and test yourself. Now, as to what I would choose (and by the way, I'm staying clean again, as I'm looking for work, and was a steady daily smoker, however, only about 6-12 hits a day. I have purchased synthetic, as I have used that before, and worked like a charm, and is really easy to use. I buy from PUCK, as it is cheap and comes with warm pack, and comfortable belt to wear, that isn't noticable..... I did drink a lot the day of 1 test, and passed, but that was years ago, and the industry wasn't on to that yet. Personally, dilution method has to be followed to a tee, as laid out by GrillMeats and others... You can't just drink a ton of water anymore, and hope it works, because they'll know.

Good luck, and if you can abstain as long as you're trying.... then I think on the 3rd piss of that day, just drinking enough to have to piss that much, and you'll be fine....but, again, test yourself so you can go in and not worry.

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Old 12-04-2005, 10:19 PM   #3
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You are correct, no fat really at all. Tall and skinny. So you are saying that if you were me you would substitue? You mentioned that you were also looking for work and were staying clean. Are you going to try to do it the right way or substitute? What is the point of staying clean if you are going to substitute? Substitue is 100% if you can pull it off, while dilute has to be done perfect. I would just want to make sure I had a soild brand of fake.

Where is the best place to purchase the substitue? PUCK?? Can you also give me the place where I can buy the strips to test the level?
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1st - Why did I get sythetic, and still stop... Well, don't know if I will face a hair test, or saliva.... at which point dilution nor substiution would work.
GoNumber1.com is where you can get the sub kit.
I also have a spouse, who kinda pressured me to stop, until I get a job...

So, you know the ole expression,

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Old 12-05-2005, 12:18 AM   #5
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Practicing with the dillution method is a lot cheaper than using a magic drink. Get a batch of ten home test off of Ebay and then practice the dillution method or just sub with some Quick Fix 4.0 and practice the temp works every time if not an observed test.
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When accepting a new job, is there a way to tell what type of test they are going to give you? My last job nobody watched, but I wonder what differs from employer to employer? I wonder if there is a way to tell what type of test you will take by looking at the paperwork they give you?

I am going to go with the substitution method if that is the case. Can anybody lend a hand on what product is the best to take in? Or, I might just ask a buddy to piss in a condom before I go in. But, just incase, what is the best product for the money out there?
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Just say you can't go with someone watching. I would SUB. manatee54 and Hawg have experience with this solution. The links are in my signature.
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When accepting a new job, is there a way to tell what type of test they are going to give you? My last job nobody watched, but I wonder what differs from employer to employer? I wonder if there is a way to tell what type of test you will take by looking at the paperwork they give you?

I am going to go with the substitution method if that is the case. Can anybody lend a hand on what product is the best to take in? Or, I might just ask a buddy to piss in a condom before I go in. But, just incase, what is the best product for the money out there?
IMHO go withthe Quick Fix if you are going to sub. Also go to http://www.testclear.com/dtcompanies/searchcompany2.cfm and see if the place is listed. It will tell you what kind of test and how often. Good Luck
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I think pretty much all companies DT these days. Except for the one I work for right now and it is a forture 500 company. But, they also know if they tested half of the company would be laid off, so they just probably pay higher premiums to avoid it.

I looked at the list of companies from the link above. If the company is not o there does that mean there is no test? Or, is that just a compiled list of known companies that for sure test?
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