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Old 12-16-2005, 04:44 PM   #11
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They have not called me yet to come in for the test. I collected my son's urine last night, and put it in the fridge. Just now, I looked at it, and it has seperated and become very cloudy! I am worried that the urine has gone bad. It was only collected and put in the fridge a little over twelve hours ago. Do I need to collect more urine? Or will it be ok when it gets warmed up> Help! I am panicing now, b/c it will be hard for me to get more urine before he gets out of school!

The pee doesn't smell bad, just looks really bad. It has seperated, and the white stuff is at the bottom of the container. Should I shake it up before and after I warm it? or just collect another sample? It is going on 12 and no call. the anticipation is killing me!
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Old 12-27-2005, 03:46 PM   #12
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Everything went fine with the drug screen!! She called this morning and I go into tomorrow morning, fill out paper work and start tomorrow morning! Whew I will sub from now on!
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For the same reason you do not get animals high, you do not smoke around your children or while you are pregnant. Also, do not use your underage children's urine for a drug test. They are not an endless supply of urine for you to beat a drug test. THEY ARE YOUR CHILDREN. There is plenty of synthetic or clean ADULT urine in the marketplace. All you are teaching your children is that it is ok to circumvent the rules. It doesn't matter that you believe MJ should be legal, at the moment, for all practical purposes, it is not legal. Until they legalize pot use, Please teach your children to be mindful of the law.

Smoking while you are pregnant shows the world just how stupid you are.

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Old 12-29-2005, 07:09 PM   #15
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Also, do not use your underage children's urine for a drug test. They are not an endless supply of urine for you to beat a drug test. THEY ARE YOUR CHILDREN. There is plenty of synthetic or clean ADULT urine in the marketplace.
I don't see how it harms a child to harvest a little pee for a urine test. They are, after all, the beneficiaries of a parent's getting/keeping a job or staying out of jail.


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All you are teaching your children is that it is ok to circumvent the rules.
There is no reason to tell the child why you are collecting the pee. It's just another one of the weird things that adults do. If asked, you tell the truth and say, "It's for a test to see what's in it."


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Smoking while you are pregnant shows the world just how stupid you are.
Before you go calling other people stupid (which is against the Posting Guidelines anyway), you should check your facts. There is no evidence that smoking marijuana during pregnancy is in any way detrimental to the fetus or the child's later development.


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Part of which is being able to support them and being with them, not in jail.
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Old 12-29-2005, 07:22 PM   #16
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We'll agree to disagree on this one.

kids are not ignorant. They know exactly why you need their pee, and your logic is circular. Use the kids pee to stay out of jail for doing an illegal activity in front of the kid. Just don't involve the kid and everyone is happy.

There is no proof that smoking while pregnant doesn't cause the fetus harm either. I prefer to not put a fetus in POTENTIAL harms way than to say "oops, guess I shouldn't have done that. My bad". If an animal can't choose so shouldn't be exposed to pot (and you support that theory), then why not the same ideal for a child or a fetus?

See the statement below as far as posting rules for this site.
There is to be no discussion of getting animals high. You (the human) decide whether or not to smoke Marijuana, but pets cannot make a conscious decision on whether or not what they consume will cause potential damage. Until the day that animals, other than humans, can make a reasoned judgment concerning Marijuana based on the available facts, and verbalize them, this subject will remain off topic.
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There is no proof that smoking while pregnant doesn't cause the fetus harm either.
There is no proof that eating peanut butter while pregnant doesn't cause the fetus harm either. Would you recommend that pregnant women don't eat peanut butter?

Using your logic, pregnant women would have to starve for nine months in order to avoid ingesting anything that might possibly harm the fetus, even though there is no evidence that such harm has ever taken place.

It takes two people to agree to disagree, and I don't. Your position has no logical basis at all. I'd say you have a lot of nerve calling someone stupid for not buying into it.


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I don't know many three-year-olds who know anything about drugs or drug testing.


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They know exactly why you need their pee, and your logic is circular. Use the kids pee to stay out of jail for doing an illegal activity in front of the kid.
If a child is old enough to understand about illegal drugs, he's old enough to understand that people don't always agree with laws against them and that such people (Mom and Dad) aren't necessarily bad. Better that he find out at an early age rather than later and have a tissue of lies between himself and his parents. Also, there is no reason why harvesting pee for a test would require doing any illegal activity in front of a child. Harvesting urine isn't illegal.

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Just don't involve the kid and everyone is happy.
Well, you'd be happy. The mother who has to go through one of the most stressful periods of her life without the relief a toke or two would bring wouldn't be very happy. Stress during pregnancy isn't particularly good for the fetus, either.
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I am done talking to someone who values animals more than an unborn, newborn, toddler, pre-schooler, etc... They also cannot make an informed decision or verbalize their opinion, but you have no qualms about smoking around them. Why is that?

Isn't there a thread somewhere about Children's Protective Services removing babies from homes because he/she tested positive? That can't be good for the kids either, but I fully blame the parent for allowing it to happen, not the law enforcement who intervened on the kids behalf.

Personally I believe if you are going to break the law because you do not believe in that law, that is your own business and you know the risks. You shouldn't involve your kids in that activity, especially kids who have no idea what they are doing or what the risks are. When they get to be ADULTS, they may then make that decision for themselves. Isn't that why this site only allows ADULTS to participate?

This is the last time I will discuss this subject. If you want the last word, go ahead and satisfy yourself.
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Not arguing just trying to point something out, I have read Buzzby's post's and I cant find where he said anything about smoking around kids.
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