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Old 12-30-2005, 04:20 PM   #21
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I have read Buzzby's post's and I cant find where he said anything about smoking around kids.
I wouldn't smoke around infants because their lungs are undeveloped and easily irritated. Other than that it probably doesn't make a lot of difference. There is very little THC in exhaled smoke and marijuana smoke has been shown not to cause cancer, even in those who smoke it directly and heavily over long periods of time. The volume of smoke compared to that produced by a cigarette chain smoker would be minimal.

One consideration is the legal one. If the kids are too little to keep a secret that could put you in jail and them in foster care, it's probably not wise to smoke in front of them.

Another factor is how high you get. Kids require a lot of care and attention. If you get too high to give it to them you're being an irresponsible parent/caregiver. The ONDCP propaganda on TV emphasizes that aspect: someone who's supposed to be caring for a child neglecting his duty because he's off somewhere getting high. A light buzz is probably as far as you'd want to go. This would also reduce the amount of second-hand smoke to which the kids would be exposed.
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Old 12-30-2005, 08:47 PM   #22
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I am done talking to someone who values animals more than an unborn, newborn, toddler, pre-schooler, etc... They also cannot make an informed decision or verbalize their opinion, but you have no qualms about smoking around them. Why is that?

Isn't there a thread somewhere about Children's Protective Services removing babies from homes because he/she tested positive? That can't be good for the kids either, but I fully blame the parent for allowing it to happen, not the law enforcement who intervened on the kids behalf.

Personally I believe if you are going to break the law because you do not believe in that law, that is your own business and you know the risks. You shouldn't involve your kids in that activity, especially kids who have no idea what they are doing or what the risks are. When they get to be ADULTS, they may then make that decision for themselves. Isn't that why this site only allows ADULTS to participate?

This is the last time I will discuss this subject. If you want the last word, go ahead and satisfy yourself.
You know, for someone who appears to be so AGAINST MJ (after reading your many posts I have this impression), why do you continually come back to this forum? If you're trying to teach some local potheads good values, you're not going to get very far posting on a urine testing thread. I understand your frustration with the way some people smoke in front of their kids (or whatever) but honestly do you think posting all of your vents here is going to help? Maybe you just need to smoke up and forget your stress.
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Old 12-31-2005, 01:05 AM   #23
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I am done talking to someone who values animals more than an unborn, newborn, toddler, pre-schooler, etc... They also cannot make an informed decision or verbalize their opinion, but you have no qualms about smoking around them. Why is that?
Because smoking around them has nothing to do with getting them high? You don't get high from second-hand smoke and you don't test positive on a drug test from second-hand smoke.


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Isn't there a thread somewhere about Children's Protective Services removing babies from homes because he/she tested positive?
That might be a good reason not to smoke during the last month of pregnancy.


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That can't be good for the kids either, but I fully blame the parent for allowing it to happen, not the law enforcement who intervened on the kids behalf.
You seem to be of the opinion that anyone with children shouldn't have anything to do with marijuana. Would that be correct? They take children away from parents simply for finding marijuana in the house.


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Personally I believe if you are going to break the law because you do not believe in that law, that is your own business and you know the risks. You shouldn't involve your kids in that activity, especially kids who have no idea what they are doing or what the risks are.
No one has suggested that you get kids high or involve them in the drug business. The only risk is that their parents might get arrested, so the only way to eliminate it would be to give up marijuana for 18 years.


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When they get to be ADULTS, they may then make that decision for themselves. Isn't that why this site only allows ADULTS to participate?
Only adults are permitted to post here. Anyone can read anything on the site. This is similar to smoking in front of your children but not letting them smoke.
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Old 12-31-2005, 02:36 AM   #24
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Another factor is how high you get. Kids require a lot of care and attention. If you get too high to give it to them you're being an irresponsible parent/caregiver. The ONDCP propaganda on TV emphasizes that aspect: someone who's supposed to be caring for a child neglecting his duty because he's off somewhere getting high. A light buzz is probably as far as you'd want to go. This would also reduce the amount of second-hand smoke to which the kids would be exposed.
I wholeheartedly agree. I know people that are doing bong rips out of a 3 footer with their kid in the next room. I have no clue how they think they're doing a good job at parenting. I can say from personal experience that once i had my kids, my bat and dugout became my fave, and damn near my only smoking apparatus. Still had my bowl and my pack of papers, but i could do a onehit, get a LITTLE buzz, and go back to my role as parent. Plus i found that there was very little second hand smoke with that....and even at that i make it a habit to not smoke (weed or cigs even) around my kids....even in the car.

Mental note to self - Need to buy a new bat and dugout for the arrival of the little one....and give to fiance to fill up for me for when i deliver
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Old 12-31-2005, 02:38 AM   #25
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Angry Why Are You Even Posting In Here???

EXCUSE ME, but I thought this thread was about passing urine tests, not some idiot who is obviously anti-pot to jump on his soap box!! My mother smoked during all 4 of her pregnancies and NONE of us have ever had any problems. My mother also smoked in front of us and with us when we were over 21. I respect her honesty and I understand her need to chill out. Alcohol is legal and causes true harm to a fetus and to children both directly and indirectly. How is it that people can get drunk around there kids and that is OK? I have smoked since I was 18 and I have never done it in front of my child. I am not a bad person and as a matter of fact I teach children with special needs. I would rather smoke a joint to relax rather than drinking after a day of dealing with a child who has severe mental defficiencies. I have to pass a drug test next week and although I have not smoked in over a month, I am worried and am considering using my child's urine. Does that make me an evil person?? GET A LIFE!! My kid has NO IDEA that urine is used to test for drugs as a matter of fact the pediatrician has checked my kids urine when she had a bladder infection. So you think kids just automatically KNOW that it is for something else? YOU HAVE WAY TOO MUCH TIME ON YOUR HANDS!! If you are so anti-pot then find a new website to peruse and leave us evil-doers alone!!! Buh Bye!!
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Old 12-31-2005, 02:40 AM   #26
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forgot to mention that the post above is addressed to the ignorant yet all knowing SEC3
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forgot to mention that the post above is addressed to the ignorant yet all knowing SEC3
sec3 is a Urine Collector, he has some good points, and we don't have to agree with him. If His knowledge helps one of us pass, it's worth it.
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Old 12-31-2005, 01:35 PM   #28
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sec3 is a Urine Collector, he has some good points, and we don't have to agree with him. If His knowledge helps one of us pass, it's worth it.
Youre right in that aspect GM.
But the inflammatory comments and editorializing does nothing to solidify the credibility of any of the factual info that he/she had provided, and it really has no place in this forum, if you ask me. Posters have been reprimanded in the past for such actions and the same should happen to sec3, IMO.
It would be wiser for the poster (and for the good of the forum) to state "just the facts" and keep the inflammatory comments and soapbox editorializing to his/herself.

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Old 12-31-2005, 10:30 PM   #29
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I agree lew, I'll have to watch it more.
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He has info but so did a certain person on another web site I try to help people on and sounds alot like, upib. If it is you, have one of your favorites a Negro Modello. Lew hit it right on the head, [good observation Lew] soapboxing, and inflammatory and belittling remarks.

We are all here to help each other and learn about something of intrest to the individual that comes here. There is nothing wrong with sharing information, but geesh it does matter in the way a person presents themselves.
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