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Old 01-09-2006, 10:38 PM   #1
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ah crap....i hadnt smoked in over a year cuz im on parole but last week...about 5 days ago i took about 10 hits all together and now im worried my parole officer will show up out of the blue and test me like she sometimes does...my metabolism is terrible but i been drinking water....when she tests me she stands in there with me and completes the test right there....it doesnt go to a lab...does diluting with toilet water work...i am 5'7'' and on the heavier side...how long do you think i should hide from her and trip about a test and what can i do if i cant avoid it??? Please help as soon as possible...what is your best guess how long I have to worry???
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Old 01-09-2006, 10:45 PM   #2
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depends on the test. a stick type of instant test usually does not have an adulterant check on it. a cup type of test (most newer tests do) has a specific gravity color coded test. You would fail using toilet water, also you would never get the temp up where it would need to be using toilet water. - not a good idea.
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Old 01-09-2006, 10:51 PM   #3
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ya i didnt think it would work that way...i passed one a lone time ago while she was standing there with a balloon full of clean pee and popped it with a needle i had hidden in my mouth but right now the only person i know with clean pee is her and thats obviously not an option...how soon do you think i can quit worrying...will a cup test show dilution if i get up early every day and drink a lot of water??? if i go back i have to sit another 6 years...ahhh...another question i think i read on erowid that exercise helps pass...is this true??
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subbing is NOT recommended for observed legal tests! you should be clean within a few more days, but get a home THC test to be sure, check your 1st void of the day tomorrow morning. read the sticky threads at the top of this forum about dilution methods and tips. you will learn how a simple thing like taking aspirin can save your ass. good luck
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Old 01-09-2006, 10:59 PM   #5
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thanks so much for your speedy reply....i could just kick myself for taking a chance but jeez i miss it like crazy
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Old 01-10-2006, 01:25 AM   #6
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okay so if i take aspirin when should i begin taking it and how many...should i just pop some early in the morning when i get up just in case...also i was reading that high calorie diet is good...does that mean like mc donalds supersized high calorie or more like poptarts high calorie....and would grapefruit juice help or hurt my situation...i know this is a lot of questions...ugh im just frustrated...
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it's a fatty diet...to cover up the fat cells that are there in you that have thc in em. mickey d's is the way to go
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at least i dont have to eat something too disgusting....thanks
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my first question is have you read the sticky threads yet? because in case you haven't yet, you really should. but my second thought is that i have to admit those are pretty good questions considering there are about 3 different opinions about the aspirin to be found up there.

http://www.marijuana.com/420/showthread.php?t=19579
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2 hours prior = 1 quart of liquid, creatine supp. 3 aspirin, 4 rolaids
1hour prior = 1 quart of liquid, 3 aspirin, b vitamin, 4 rolaids
1/2 hour prior = 2 quarts liquid, 2 aspirin, 4 rolaids
http://www.marijuana.com/420/showthread.php?t=29426
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4-12 hours before the test take 4 aspirin (not Tylenol or Advil). This step may be repeated every 4-6 hours up until 4 hours before the test.
http://www.marijuana.com/420/showthread.php?t=32063
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It is also a good idea to use aspirin 30 minutes before the test time; 4-5 325 aspirins is sufficient, and no, advil or tylenol will not substitute for aspirin; I recommend any generic or Bayer.
now here's a couple of other things i've read:

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In 1994 the Journal of Clinical Chemistry reports that 4 aspirins ingestd before
a urine test reduces positive readings for 2 to 12 hours. Doses of 12 aspirin could reduce a readingup to
40% if a person had alkaline urine. For borderline cases this is a good step to take when drinking lquids.
For best results take aspirin with last glass of liquid.
http://www.**********/en/drugs/legal...e/passtest.html
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According to Jeff Nightbyrd, there is testing industry data that taking 4 aspirins a few hours prior to the test might help you. ". . . aspirin interferes with the Syvia [sic] EMIT assay. It seems that aspirin absorbs at the same wavelength that NAD does which is how it interferes with the assay" (Clin Chem 34 (90) 602-606). Two reliable sources have tested aspirin and found it to interfere with the EMIT. In the future they will try to find a way to circumvent this test flaw. Until then, I certainly recommend taking advantage of the situation and using aspirin.
http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives...sting_faq.shtml
http://www.urban75.com/Drugs/testing2.html
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Instead of causing a false positive, aspirin acts a smoke screen interfering with the EMIT assay. The EMIT test is a competitive binding assay, which utilizes enzymes for the conversion of NAD+ to NADH. The aspirin absorbs at the same wavelength as the NAD+ not allowing the NAD+ to be made into NADH, and therfore, not allowing the THC to show up on the test. The EMIT assay is the most widely used drug test because it is also the cheapest. Usually if an EMIT test is positive, the lab will then send a sample off to be checked using GC/MS conformation. The GC/MS test is much more accurate and much more difficult to fool. I actually looked at the marijuana.com website you quoted and it also had information on aspirin in section 7.1.1. I've always taken four to six 325mg aspirin the morning of my drug test and used water dilution, and I've always passed. Just remember to give the aspirin enough time to absorb into your bloodstream and don't get carried away with the water. I've had to retake the test before due to watered down urine. The lab will usually measure creatine levels to make sure you're not pissing pure H2O.
http://boards.marihemp.com/boards/thd18x13583.shtml
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Decreased signal in Emit assays of drugs of abuse in urine after ingestion of aspirin: potential for false-negative results.

Wagener RE, Linder MW, Valdes R Jr.

Department of Pathology, University of Louisville School of Medicine, University of Louisville Hospital, KY 40292.

During routine drug analysis with the Syva d.a.u. Emit immunoassays we observed a high frequency of urines with lower rates of changes in absorbance (delta A R) than the rate for a drug-free urine calibrator. Many of these urines contained salicylates. Among 40 urines with apparent salicylate concentrations between 15 and 420 mg/dL tested for benzoylecgonine (BE), 20 had delta A R < -4 (range +2 to -28 mA/min). The rates decreased with increasing salicylate: delta A R = -0.057 x (salicylate, mg/dL) -0.22 mA/min (r = 0.85, n = 40, P < 0.01). Urines from 100 control subjects (no salicylate) had mean +/- SD delta A R values of -1.05 +/- 2.2 mA/min (range +3 to -7; only two were < -4 mA/min). Although direct addition of salicylic acid (200 mg/dL) to urine specimens did not reproduce the negative bias, ingestion of aspirin (acetylsalicylic acid) did by -0.09 mA/min per 1 mg/dL (72.4 mumol/L) salicylate. Negative biases observed for other Emit d.a.u. assays after salicylate ingestion lead us to conclude that ingestion of therapeutic doses of aspirin may cause false-negative results for drug screens in urines by this technology.

PMID: 8149618 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
which tells me that it could take 2 hours to start working and after 3 hours it could get flushed out... so what i personally recommend is to take them in 2 volleys:

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Originally Posted by me lol
At about 3 hours before the test, unless you are aspirin-sensitive, take 4 regular aspirin (NOT Advil, Motrin nor Tylenol) and also take 4 Rolaids or Tums antacid tablets. Then take 4 more aspirin and 4 more Rolaids again at about 2 hours before the test.

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thanks so much...ya i read some of the sticky forum and there's a lot of good info but its a lot to absorb and my mind is just racing the last couple days especially since its monday and i have 4 more days b4 the weekend to worry...(my p.o. doesnt work on the weekend) so thanks for narrowing it down for me and laying it all out...i went and got some plain old aspirin that ill be sure to start popping in the morning when i get up...hopefully all this worry will have been for nothing but with so much at stake i cant help it...im open to any other advice you might have for me...ill definitely let you know how this all turns out...
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