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Old 04-05-2006, 05:06 AM   #1
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Ive been clean for about a week and a half. Last time I smoked was just a few hits from a bowl. After my sentencing, I have to take a drug test at 7:30am tommorow (7 and a half hours). Instead of waking up hours before my test, ive decided to just stay up all night. Here is my strategy

9pm- Creatine dose
11pm- 4 aspirin
1am- 3 aspirin
2:30am- 2 aspirin, begin drinking water/green tea, a glass or two every 10-15 minutes
3:30am- 2 aspirin
4:30am- 2 aspirin, 4 rolaids, vitamin B (8,000% daily dosage per pill)
5:30am- 4 rolaids, another vitamin B (same size pill, probably wont take if not needed)
6:30am- 2 aspirin, 4 tums
6:30-6:45- Practice home test
7:30am- Actual test

Does anyone see any gaping holes in my strategy? Ill be drinking a lot of liquids, will it be so much that the aspirin will have no effect? Am I overdoing anything? Will taking that much aspirin make me sick? Thanks
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Old 04-05-2006, 05:12 AM   #2
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i would use gatorade instead of water ... defintely.

did you create this plan yourself? the asprin amount might be a bit much for that period of time, i mean in terms in killing your stomach, lol, not you. And since you plan on being up tonight, go back and check the standard dilution method posted by N2.

also, creatine takes time to build up in your system, so from what i've researched on here, one dose will not do anything.

i hope this helps! good luck and keep us posted.
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Old 04-05-2006, 05:27 AM   #3
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Yea I thought about that with the creatine, but I just decided to give it a shot.

I am thinking that much aspirin would hurt my stomach. I'm just trying to figure out the right time to take it so its in my urine when I go. To early and it wont get out in time, too late and its all gone. Any help on the best time? N2's guidlines seem very reasonable, so is taking aspirin 4 hours before the test the latest I can take it?

I kind of created the plan by mixing N2s and the other guys guidelines. I will do anything to pass this test, I am terrified of going to jail.

And about the gatorade, I feel pretty comfortable with green tea. I accidentally made my first time drug screening completely clean by drinking a few cans before the test (had smoked the night before), but Im definitely going to be sure this time around because there is much more at risk.
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Old 04-05-2006, 12:09 PM   #4
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holy shit thats a hell of a plan you came up with
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Old 04-05-2006, 01:34 PM   #5
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What ended up happening was I couldnt take all that aspirin, I got a minor stomacheache, and incredibly bad diarreah. Also I accidentally got vitamin B12, not B2 or B complex, so my urine was pretty much crystal clear. It was to diluted, so ill be going in later today.
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Old 04-05-2006, 02:58 PM   #6
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You are really annoying me.
Here's the timeline:
3/10
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Urine Testing problem
After being referred to do urine testing by the court, i have the stupidest problem ever. For some reason, it doesnt matter how much i have to pee, i just cant do it. Maybe its some mental thing since there is someone in the room, looking the other way. Ive never had any problem like this, and im fine doing it in a normal bathroom with guys all around me. Im not conciously not able to do it, i just stand there trying, and nothing happens. Its the weirdest thing ever. i was wondering

1. Has this happened to anyone else? It seems like a common problem at the place i go to. Any simple tricks?

2. Would the court ever be able to refer me to a place that utilizes hair/blood testing? Or will they force me to go to a hospital and get a catheter or whatever its called.
On 3/13, in the thread you started, you said you took a test today, you said you had tried to take the test for 5 days and could not pee in front of the observer (putting the start date of your test session at either 3/6 or 3/8 depending if it went over the weekend). You said you last smoked on Friday (that would be 3/10). Dilution without creatine/vitamins
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Today I took a court ordered drug test. I know im going to fail, and couldnt work to pass it because the court expects me to fail. Im wondering, if I drank 5-6 cans of green tea (normal pop size cans), and 2-3 water bottles before the test, is there any chance ill pass? I was urinating very clearly about every hour before and even after the test, and the urine was pretty clear with a slight yellow tinge to it. The last time I smoked was friday night, and i smoked about 3-4 times a week before then. I know for sure that my sample was not too diluted, and it is a valid sample. Im just trying to size up my chances. Thanks!
Why in the hell would you smoke on the 10th when you are supposedly trying to take a drug test?

On 3/30 you said you accidently drank too much green tea just to ensure you could pee during your test.
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I had a one time drug test before I went on probation. I admitted to smoking 2 weeks prior to the court date in court, because I didn't think I would have enough time to dilute or anything. A few days later, I drank 6-7 normal size cans of green tea, just to make sure I had to go to the bathroom when I went to get tested. Turns out I passed! I had smoked a few times a week coming up to it.
Forgot to mention the extra water you also drank.
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This is where it gets tricky, I had trouble urinating while being observed, and went every day for 5 days, and ended up taking it. I drank so much water and green tea to make sure I had to go to the bathroom when I went, I actually passed the test. I have another small hearing, which is right before my sentencing, where I will have to explain why I was late with the test. After talking to numerous court employees, they all say that I will be fine, with no punishment or requirement of paying bond.
Here is where you say you had to go every day for 5 days.

Then yesterday you had this story to tell:
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Ive been clean for about a week and a half. Last time I smoked was just a few hits from a bowl. After my sentencing, I have to take a drug test at 7:30am tommorow (7 and a half hours). Instead of waking up hours before my test, ive decided to just stay up all night. Here is my strategy...
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And about the gatorade, I feel pretty comfortable with green tea. I accidentally made my first time drug screening completely clean by drinking a few cans before the test (had smoked the night before), but Im definitely going to be sure this time around because there is much more at risk.
Then, this morning (4/5) at 7:34 am , you posted this:
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What ended up happening was I couldnt take all that aspirin, I got a minor stomacheache, and incredibly bad diarreah. Also I accidentally got vitamin B12, not B2 or B complex, so my urine was pretty much crystal clear. It was to diluted, so ill be going in later today
. - Serves you right.

If you are going to ask for advice, and expect accurate advice, you must first post accurate background information.

IMO:
1. No one drinks 5, 6 or 7 cans of green tea and 2 - 3 bottles of water JUST to make sure they can pee.
2. After drinking all that fluid, how did you KNOW your specimen was not too duluted?
3. No one smokes dope during the time they are supposed to take a drug test each and every day during 5 days running.
4. SAMSHA guidelines would not allow you to not pee for 5 days, and no court I know of would. They would just strip search you and let you wait it out or if you could not pee for a time period of 3 hours, they would have sent you to a doctor to find a medical reason why.
5. Did you smoke 3 days before or the day before your drug test, because you have told both.

Then there's this little tidbit poste on 3/8:
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there were no prior convictions, my record was clean.

And i definitely regret not getting an attorney now. I didnt think it would become a big deal.
and then you posted on 4/3...
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Originally Posted by bhamlaxy
At first I decided to represent myself, but 3 days before my sentencing, I recieved a letter in the mail saying I have been appointed an attorney, So ill call him tommorow to see whats up.
DUH!!!
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Old 04-05-2006, 06:46 PM   #7
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Why in the hell would you smoke on the 10th when you are supposedly trying to take a drug test?
It was a one time drug screening test. The point is the court expected me to fail, so smoking right before it would only boost my levels, so they can watch them decrease throughout probation (began on 4-4)

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Here is where you say you had to go every day for 5 days.
This is regarding the one time screening, from the first day, I couldn't urinate, up until the fifth day when I finally did, and passed.

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If you are going to ask for advice, and expect accurate advice, you must first post accurate background information.
What I posted is 99% accurate. I didn't remember the exact dates.

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1. No one drinks 5, 6 or 7 cans of green tea and 2 - 3 bottles of water JUST to make sure they can pee.
After 5 days of not being able to go, I was becoming fearful of what the court would do, so I was desperate, and was trying to make myself have to go really badly once I got there.

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2. After drinking all that fluid, how did you KNOW your specimen was not too duluted?
At that point I didn't really care, I thought i'd deal with a diluted result rather then dealing with no tests on record. And I found out it wasn't to diluted when I got the OK to leave from the testers.

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No one smokes dope during the time they are supposed to take a drug test each and every day during 5 days running.
They werent 5 consecutive tests, they were 5 attempts. And as I explained above, I smoked because the result didnt matter, as long as the numbers decreased as my probation began.

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4. SAMSHA guidelines would not allow you to not pee for 5 days, and no court I know of would. They would just strip search you and let you wait it out or if you could not pee for a time period of 3 hours, they would have sent you to a doctor to find a medical reason why.
I'm not familiar with SAMSHA guidelines, but are they only regarding probation? I did have a show-cause hearing for waiting to long for the test, but the judge took care of it without a hearing or anything.

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5. Did you smoke 3 days before or the day before your drug test, because you have told both.
The original one was the day before. I'm sorry about confusing the dates.

What is the point of all this? I'm not trying to lie, Im obviously very scared right now, and the people who posted above you have been tremendously helpful. Whats the point of putting this big post up challenging my credibility? If you don't want to help out, you can leave me alone.
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Apparently the other posters are unfamiliar with your history of lying on this website. You are right, I will try not to answer any more of your posts. I would hope that by now, (you have been reading and asking for advice for well over a month now, and been registered with mj.com for over a year now), that you would have enough knowledge built up to answer most of the questions you have been asking. The next person to answer any of your posts should tell you to stop smoking while you are on probation as is customary with other posters who are on probation. (just in case that was your next question.)
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Dont worry about that, Ive stopped smoking. Im just afraid about failing due to smoking before probation.
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