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jbyrd331 · 04-25-2006, 12:59 AM

my oringnal thread.......

http://www.marijuana.com/420/showthread.php?t=45793

Well........Got my results back and I failed. JUST JOKING!!!

My results were negitive diluted. This is not a bad thing. I was sweating my results so bad! I tested on Friday and got a call from my employer this morning (monday). I have to retest on Friday (I am out of town till then).

So I guess my new question is.....This was a DOT test at a Labcop affiliate office (nice one, not a fly by night). I am a long time subber and look to do it again as I know what I am up aginst now and already took the physical. In my first test, there was no witness. Since I was diluted will I get a witness this time? I want to order my quix fix 4.0 this evening and need some more experienced wisdom and reassurance. I also plan to dilute using the N2 method for a back up plan (like a dumb ass I didn't follow it fully. If I did we more than likely wouldn't be here talking about a retest!). But like most things, U live and learn! Unfortantly I usually have to learn the hard way!

I would also like to thank this site as it REALLY helps all of us soliders defending our way of life! My advice to anyone who reads this......
READ AND COMPREHEND WHAT YOU ARE BEING TOLD HERE! DO YOUR RESEARCH! READ AS MANY THREADS HERE THAT APPLY TO UR SITUATION! BE HUMBLE! FINALLY...DON'T FREAK OUT LIKE I DID. DON'T SWEAT THE SMALL THINGS, DO WHAT U ARE TOLD HERE AND THING WILL WORK OUT!

I truly apperciate all of the help

1tokeovertheline · 04-25-2006, 01:19 AM

Hawg said you would come up negative dilute. Pretty good isn't he?

jbyrd331 · 04-25-2006, 01:21 AM

Yea Hawg knows his poop!!!!

Anyone who dosen't follow the advise here is a fool!

kb_chronic · 04-25-2006, 01:25 AM

Well, congrats and good luck in the next test

jbyrd331 · 04-25-2006, 02:10 AM

Do you think they will watch me retest. What I am really saying is subing still a posibility?

lew scannon · 04-25-2006, 11:47 AM

Under DOT regulations, you wont be observed on the retest unless you had an extremely low creatinine level (i.e., between 2-5 ng.). Otherwise, substitution would be a viable option for the retest.

From the Dept of Transportation.....

Quote:

§ 40.197 What happens when an employer receives a report of a dilute specimen?
(a) As the employer, if the MRO informs you that a positive drug test was dilute, you simply treat the test as a verified positive test. You must not direct the employee to take another test based on the fact that the specimen was dilute.
(b) As an employer, if the MRO informs you that a negative test was dilute, take the following action:
(1) If the MRO directs you to conduct a recollection under direct observation (i.e., because the creatinine concentration of the specimen was equal to or greater than 2mg/dL, but less than or equal to 5 mg/dL (see §40.155(c)), you must do so immediately.
(2) Otherwise (i.e., if the creatinine concentration of the dilute specimen is greater than 5 mg/dL), you may, but are not required to, direct the employee to take another test immediately.
(i) Such recollections must not be collected under direct observation, unless there is another basis for use of direct observation (see §40.67 (b) and (c)).
(ii) You must treat all employees the same for this purpose. For example, you must not retest some employees and not others. You may, however, establish different policies for different types of tests (e.g., conduct retests in pre-employment situations, but not in random test situations). You must inform your employees in advance of your decisions on these matters.
(c) The following provisions apply to all tests you direct an employee to take under paragraph (b) of this section:
(1) You must ensure that the employee is given the minimum possible advance notice that he or she must go to the collection site;
(2) You must treat the result of the test you directed the employee to take under paragraph (b) of this section—and not a prior test—as the test result of record, on which you rely for purposes of this part;
(3) If the result of the test you directed the employee to take under paragraph (b) of this section is also negative and dilute, you are not permitted to make the employee take an additional test because the result was dilute. Provided, however, that if the MRO directs you to conduct a recollection under direct observation under paragraph (b)(1) of this section, you must immediately do so.
(4) If the employee declines to take a test you directed him or her to take under paragraph (b) of this section, the employee has refused the test for purposes of this part and DOT agency regulations.
[68 FR 31626, May 28, 2003; 69 FR 64867, Nov.9, 2004]

To view all of the DOT regulations in their entirety, follow this link: http://www.dot.gov/ost/dapc/NEW_DOCS/part40.html?proc

Hope that helps a little

jbyrd331 · 04-26-2006, 02:14 AM

Thanks! I was on the dot site but couldn't find that information. I apperciate the reassurance. I am not even sweating the retest as I have a ready doner meeting me friday morning before the test. But I will be making a few practice runs this week to get the temp situation worked out. I apperciate the help.

I will post my results next week! Man I can't wait to smoke!

Hawg · 04-26-2006, 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbyrd331

Thanks! I was on the dot site but couldn't find that information. I apperciate the reassurance. I am not even sweating the retest as I have a ready doner meeting me friday morning before the test. But I will be making a few practice runs this week to get the temp situation worked out. I apperciate the help.

I will post my results next week! Man I can't wait to smoke!

Have a heating pad with you in case you need it and Just crotch it right away to keep the temp up.

04-25-2006, 12:59 AM	#1
jbyrd331 New Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 11 Grams: 798.55 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Got results.......... my oringnal thread....... http://www.marijuana.com/420/showthread.php?t=45793 Well........Got my results back and I failed. JUST JOKING!!! My results were negitive diluted. This is not a bad thing. I was sweating my results so bad! I tested on Friday and got a call from my employer this morning (monday). I have to retest on Friday (I am out of town till then). So I guess my new question is.....This was a DOT test at a Labcop affiliate office (nice one, not a fly by night). I am a long time subber and look to do it again as I know what I am up aginst now and already took the physical. In my first test, there was no witness. Since I was diluted will I get a witness this time? I want to order my quix fix 4.0 this evening and need some more experienced wisdom and reassurance. I also plan to dilute using the N2 method for a back up plan (like a dumb ass I didn't follow it fully. If I did we more than likely wouldn't be here talking about a retest!). But like most things, U live and learn! Unfortantly I usually have to learn the hard way! I would also like to thank this site as it REALLY helps all of us soliders defending our way of life! My advice to anyone who reads this...... READ AND COMPREHEND WHAT YOU ARE BEING TOLD HERE! DO YOUR RESEARCH! READ AS MANY THREADS HERE THAT APPLY TO UR SITUATION! BE HUMBLE! FINALLY...DON'T FREAK OUT LIKE I DID. DON'T SWEAT THE SMALL THINGS, DO WHAT U ARE TOLD HERE AND THING WILL WORK OUT! I truly apperciate all of the help

04-25-2006, 01:19 AM	#2
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04-25-2006, 01:25 AM	#4
kb_chronic New Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 62 Grams: 898.70 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Well, congrats and good luck in the next test __________________ www.ganjagurus.com http://www.ganjagurus.com/images/banner3.gif The Gurus of Ganja

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04-25-2006, 01:21 AM	#3
jbyrd331 New Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 11 Grams: 798.55 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Yea Hawg knows his poop!!!! Anyone who dosen't follow the advise here is a fool!

04-25-2006, 02:10 AM	#5
jbyrd331 New Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 11 Grams: 798.55 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Do you think they will watch me retest. What I am really saying is subing still a posibility?

04-26-2006, 02:14 AM	#7
jbyrd331 New Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 11 Grams: 798.55 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Thanks! I was on the dot site but couldn't find that information. I apperciate the reassurance. I am not even sweating the retest as I have a ready doner meeting me friday morning before the test. But I will be making a few practice runs this week to get the temp situation worked out. I apperciate the help. I will post my results next week! Man I can't wait to smoke!

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