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Old 07-22-2006, 10:59 PM   #1
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Question Subbing-do I still pee dirty pee in the toilet? Thanks!

Hey, y'all. I want to thank everyone in this community for making me a proud and successful SUB CLUBBER two times over! Yay! Big thanks to the awesome members of Cheap Talk for helping a long time stoneer chick out!

But, I have always wondered--do I still pee dirty pee in the toilet, for effect of sound? I have done this in the past but always wondered.

Plus, I am testing Quest this time, pre-employment. Researched the complany and they test urine. Going the TestClear.com powdered urine route for the first time...this time had no clean friends! Searched the forums and it seemed a few had good things to say about testclear. Anyone else out there have any luck with this brand?

My worry, however, is that they will want more than 50ml. I think I am going to search for "doggy pee" threads to see if that works so I have that is back-up...just in case. Does that sound like an ok back-up? Does anyone know if u can mix the two? If not, does anyone know what another viable option could be?

Thanks to everyone out there...this place rocks!
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Old 07-23-2006, 12:13 AM   #2
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Default Ok, just realized my dog pee won't work

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Dog pee won't work.

Plan now is to still use the TestClear powdered urine(although ultra worried about "clumping" or some such stuff since reading a couple of posts) and carry a small vial of water. This seems sketch central to me, as it seems that will be too diluted. Opinions?

Might risk going negative in bank account and just go buy some QuickFix, which I should have done in first place. Hopefully that comes with enough of the stuff. Test Clear only offers 50 ml.I don't know about this TestClear.

Now gonna google where to buy here (ATL)...since I have no time to order.

Scared!! Don't know which route to take. I also have some month old urine in freezer, donated by friend. But, am hesitant to use that because of the age, even though it has been rumored the shelf life is a year. Partly because she is prescribed Valium

AHHH...need to go take, and chill on all this research for a minute...Good gawd

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Old 07-23-2006, 12:19 AM   #3
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Using animal urine is definetly NOT a good idea, as a matter of fact, it is a pretty piss poor idea since it is detectable. Animal urine has different qualities than human urine.

Some employers require 60 mL of urine. DOT requires 45 mL of urine, and still some other employers only require 30 mL of urine. It all depends on who you are testing for and what their company guidelines are.

Quick Fix 4.0 gives enough urine for a 60 mL test. That is all you need. If you need to pee in the toilet, then do so. If not don't. It is up to you.
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Old 07-23-2006, 04:54 AM   #4
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Default Thank you

Thanks, Sec3 .

Appreciate the advice. Good to know I can pee in the toilet withouth worry...

Tomorrow am going on the hunt for QuickFix. Biting fingernails till next week.

Thanks again and have a wonderful weekend.
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You will like the ease of using Quick Fix, it will pass any drug test as long as the temp is right.

"piss poor" good choice of words Sec
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Old 07-23-2006, 04:30 PM   #6
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Default Ahh!!

Thanks to all for the help.

I am freaking out because like a complete dumba$$, I bought the TestClear urine and not the QuickFix....now my test is in three days, at best, and I am so freaked out. I cannot find QuickFix here in ATL (maybe you can only buy it on the internet?).

I can't locate any clean pee. I am at a loss....should I use the TestClear and chance it?? I am on the verge of a panic attack!!!

I called around the ATL head shops with no luck...

I don't know what to do...I am a semi-master subber and am great at getting the temp right....but am not confident with this product...

THANKS TO ALL!!
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If that is your only choice, you may have to chance it. Try the internet and have it shipped next day air. That may be more expensive, but probably worth it.

If you can't get the QF at all, then use the test clear, give only the 50 mL, and say that is all you have. Most of the time, that is enough. Sometimes I fill Just short of the line in both vials to make it stretch a bit if a donor is very close to the required amount.

Also, dilute as a back-up if they don't accept the amount, or go back to the head shop and buy additional Synthetic urine (Test Clear brand) and then you will have enough.
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Just to add, pissing in the toilet won't matter unless it has zero water in there. The amount of water in the average toilet is far too much to not dilute any sample down to nothing, not to mention completely unreliable variable wise and therefore would not be counted by any real testing lab. Who's to say the last "sample" didn't linger around? There are very specific guidelines set by standards in order to protect the testee. I know I've had to sign off on all my samples to verify that it didn't leave my site until it was sealed to prove it was mine and such so don't worry about them sneaking in the bathroom after you're done to test the toilet water.
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OMG!!! Like we care that much whether you pass or not. We just collect according to regulation and/or protocol and collect our money.

No, sometimes I hear pee in the toilet, and sometimes I don't. Not really indicative of whether a donor is subbing or not.

Just a bit of advice: Once I hear the cup set on the counter and you fumbling with your pants, snap, zipper, etc., that door better be opening up real soon. Messing around for a minute or so after I hear the zipper or the clang of the belt buckle is cause for suspicion. It isn't that I have my ear to the door, Its just that some people are much noisier than others. Some even put their hand on the door knob like they are ready to open the door, then change their mind and take a long time to actually open the door.

Even with all that said, there really isn't a whole lot I can do about it. If you have the temp correct and the color is not way off base, (and there's no adulteration materials in the garbage or toilet), I must accept the specimen.
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Default Thanks for all the advice

Thanks, guys. One more quick thing...

I have some pee in my freezer about a month old. I hear the shelf life of frozen is a year. One problem: she has a presecription for Valium.

Do u guys think it better to chance the TestClear crap or go the route of the human frozen stuff, despite the Valium? I am torn!

Also, I have also heard horror stories of Quest in ATL watching....isn't that kind of illegal or something if it is pre-employ? My other pre-employ. were not watched. If they try to, can't I assert my "rights" ?

Any help is awesome. Thanks to all again... You guys are wonderful!
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