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Old 08-10-2006, 03:48 AM   #1
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Default Can anyone of you smart ones help me not get a dilluted sample tom. 4 probation?

I am sorry moderators if I am in the wrong for posting this here.. But I am super scared about tomorrow. I used the dillution/aspirin technique today and came up too dilluted to test for probation twice.. A few of us had the same problem. We all got yelled at and they took a saliva test and ordered us to come back tomorrow morning at 8:30 to provide a valid sample.. I think I may have drank too much liquid this time.. I have had success the first time after abstaining for 10 days. But I wasn't smoking regularly at the time. Then I thought I was in the clear until I got a random drug screen form in the mail.
I have tons of Powerade, Tums, Aspirin, Creatine, (ate a steak tonight), green tea (does that even help?), and vitamins. If I get another dilluted sample, they are gonna be pissed for sure. I haven't smoked really in 4-5 days. And was just smoking low grade. I took a few resin tokes 2 days ago before I got the letter in the mail. All I need to do is pass this one and I am stopping for good until I am off this crazy courts system.

My question is, how do I dillute it enough- but not too much? Of course the dork who drops the stick said not to piss in the morning, and don't drink anything. Hell if I'm gonna do that, but getting dilluted again will probably screw me. Anyone that can shed some light on how they test for dillution levels in a dip stick test, you are my saviors. Please someone help!
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Old 08-10-2006, 05:14 AM   #2
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I think most of the answers to your questions will be found in the dilution sticky. I'm probably a little more patient with these same questions than the moderators or more experienced, senior members, but I'm pretty much of an idiot myself.

There is plenty of information about how much to bump back your Gatorade or sports drink intake. So, pretend you're in school and read and learn.

I think you need to stay up all night and practice diluting. You may want to pop into an 24-hour drug store and get some THC home tests.

Creatinine loading only works if you do it three or four days in advance, so that it metabolizes in your body.

If you're going to continue to smoke while on probation - and I strongly recommend that you don't - then you may want to invest in some cheap home tests off of ebay and some specimen validation tests, or some Quick Fix 4.0 for subbing.

I hope you can dilute enough to pass tomorrow's test. Hopefully, you have learned your lesson that the fear and stress of continuing to smoke while on probation isn't worth it. Work hard to pass your next test with no fears or worries, by abstaining, or before your next court appearance when you have to answer a judge why you keep showing up positive or diluted.

It's time to start loving yourself, my friend, and treating yourself and your future life with some respect.
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Old 08-10-2006, 09:59 PM   #3
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i was under the impression that if they test you with the dip sticks and don't do any validity testing,, that you can use the dilute method with out any worries.
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Old 08-10-2006, 10:55 PM   #4
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i was under the impression that if they test you with the dip sticks and don't do any validity testing,, that you can use the dilute method with out any worries.

That is what sec3 said and sec3 knows.

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If he only uses a dip stick with no validity testing, then dilute away. There would be no way for him to tell if your specimen is too diluted or not
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Old 08-10-2006, 11:05 PM   #5
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That is what sec3 said and sec3 knows.
yes that was where i got my info,, was very helpful sec3 knows his stuff. i'm so glad that there are people out there with this knowledge to help others. i am very greatful. thanks to all
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Old 08-10-2006, 11:08 PM   #6
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Onetoke, you lost me. What thread did Sec3 quote come from? It seems that nfm420 and lngtimetoker are on different pages. Since nfm420 has tested dilute before, they are doing validity testing on his sample, yet lngtimetoker is either giving him a green light to unlimited dilution or is talking about something else.

Nfm420, I have seen people on here talking about buying these validiy testing strips to use with drug testing strips. If you can find them with such short notice then that is the key. Otherwise, try to add as much "good stuff" to your urine as possible such as the creatine and vitamin B2. I am pretty sure the creatine is helpful if taken 24-48 hours before the test and not 72-96 hours before as previously suggested (no offense!), plus it is creatine and that is metabolized to creatinine. I am not sure what the Tums does but if it adds stuff to your urine eat them like they are going out of style. I haven't seen many people on here talk about vitamin c but I have seen it recommended in High Times before, maybe to alter the pH.
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sec3 gave me the advice in a post i had named a few questions
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Onetoke, you lost me. What thread did Sec3 quote come from? It seems that nfm420 and lngtimetoker are on different pages. Since nfm420 has tested dilute before, they are doing validity testing on his sample, yet lngtimetoker is either giving him a green light to unlimited dilution or is talking about something else.
My response was to lngtimetoker. He said he was under the impression that a dip stick test wouldn't be validated. I confirmed his statement with a quote from sec3. Sec3's quote is in the post directly under this one in the thread started by lngtimetoker. Sorry for the confusion.

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Whoooooops!!!!! it was under this one until I replied. Here is the link to it. http://www.marijuana.com/420/urine-t...questions.html
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Old 08-11-2006, 10:19 PM   #9
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I appoligize to the people who have read this thread or who will read it. I should have just quoted what sec3 had told me in the post i started. what i was asking was if my tester only uses a dip stick and just dips it in my sample, gives me the results and just throws the dip stick away,,,, would i have to be worried about over diluteing? i'm sure that they could still do a vadility test of someones sample if the temp or color was not to there likeing. the dip sticks that the tester uses on or employees is white in color and has a seperate control window and the actual line that appears is under a little flap on top of the stick. he lifts this little flap to check to see if the line is appearing for a neagative result. when he sees it he simply says your good to go and throws it away. i'm not saying that all dip sticks are like this as i'm sure some are differant and test in differant ways. i'm sure that sec3 can enlighten us on this some more. concerning the differant types of dip sticks and what they can an cannot pick up. once again sorry for the confusion.

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The device lngtimetoker is talking about is your basic dip stick. There are no validity tests with it. The specimen would need to be tested separately with a validity strip or sent to a lab. Since lngtimetoker's specimens arent being tested for dilution, then drinking excessive amounts of fluid without worrying about creatinine levels, specific gravity or pH levels would be the thing to do.

nfm420's specimens are obviously being tested for adulteration, dilution and drugs. He/she must follow the dilution recommendations, with all the suppliments (creatine, gatorade, vitamin b2, tums, aspirin, etc) really closely in order to not have a diluted result again.
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