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Old 10-10-2006, 11:17 PM   #1
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Default freezing real urine

kay so a while ago someone posted that they freezed their own clean urine and thawed it out / used it whenever needed. whoever it was said they took what they needed out of the large container for a year.

just to be perfectly sure, REAL urine can be frozen and thawed as many times as needed, correct? any specific time zone when it can go "bad" ?

search feature kept timing out, and can't remember the exact wordage from the post i read from a long time ago that was made sometime in 2005.

thanks for the help
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Old 10-11-2006, 12:20 AM   #2
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here is a link to a thread that talks about freezing urine. Not sure if it is the one you saw:

http://www.thedrugwar.com/urine-test...ines-n2-2.html
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Old 10-11-2006, 12:31 AM   #3
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first of all, thanks for the reponse.

however i was kind of looking for more of a specific answer... N2 only froze it twice and he doesnt know anything else about freezing it again. does anybody have any personal experiences they could offer me? it would help greatly. thanks a bunch
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Old 10-12-2006, 04:01 AM   #4
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nothin i'm dying here.... can't go too much longer without blazin. (randomly tested, hence the name)

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Old 10-12-2006, 10:10 AM   #5
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nothin i'm dying here.... can't go too much longer without blazin. (randomly tested, hence the name)

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If you get random test how do you plan on leaving work, going home, thawing the sample, heating it up and getting back to take the random test? Just get some Quick Fix and keep it in your locker or someplace and heat it up with a cup of coffee, hot water or whatever. Some have said they go to work everyday with a crotched sample of QF. The only other option would be not smoking at all because you could get a random test. By the sound of it you're really not up to that.
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Old 10-12-2006, 11:38 AM   #6
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Here's what I found on Google:

Can I Freeze Urine?
Yes. People freeze their own urine. You can freeze urine for about one year. You will need to thaw it out and warm it up before placing it in The Urinator (HL: Or any other container for that matter, like a condom).

Some companies are selling frozen human urine and shipping it through the mail. It very well may be rancid before you receive it even though they claim a year self-life. Keep in mind this is based on keeping the product frozen. The mail and other carriers can take several days if not close to a week to deliver products and this urine would certainly be thawed and unuseable at the time you receive it. Do an experiment before you buy human urine through the mail. Pee in a cup. Let it sit around for two or three days at room temperature and then smell it. That should be all you need to know about human urine shipped through the mail.

HL: Basically, if it smells rancid, it's no good!
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Default lew,hawg,buzzby?????

I would still like to know how he could use frozen piss for a random drug test. That just doesn't make any sense to me. Enlighten me a little on this. Is it possible?? If so. How?
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I would still like to know how he could use frozen piss for a random drug test. That just doesn't make any sense to me. Enlighten me a little on this. Is it possible?? If so. How?
About the only way this could be possibly pulled off is if the donor was lucky enough to not be escorted to the company vehicle for the trip, and even luckier to buy enough "travel time" to pull it off.

Pre-mixed synthetic urine (such as the Quick Fix) is the only feasible way to go for any random drug test.

With the Quick Fix in your pants,
Randoms don't stand a chance..
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About the only way this could be possibly pulled off is if the donor was lucky enough to not be escorted to the company vehicle for the trip, and even luckier to buy enough "travel time" to pull it off.

Pre-mixed synthetic urine (such as the Quick Fix) is the only feasible way to go for any random drug test.

With the Quick Fix in your pants,
Randoms don't stand a chance..
Thanks lew. That is what I thought. I like your little rhym about QF.
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I would still like to know how he could use frozen piss for a random drug test. That just doesn't make any sense to me. Enlighten me a little on this. Is it possible?? If so. How?
Hello,

I'm a new member and saw this post. I thought I'd chime in.

My random test procedure is that I have had to signed up w/ a monitoring program and I have received a personal ID # and access code. I am required to call a toll-free number Monday-Friday and the automated voice response system indicates whether or not my number has been selected that day for testing.

I also have to have on hand a Chain-of-Custody (COC) form on which there are several different tests listed which are identified only by a number. If my number "comes up", it will indicate which test number I am to have performed that day. I check that number on the form and take it to a pre-arranged test site, (a LabCorp facility). There, I give my sample. I am only informed of the test results if positive.

Thus, if I call and find out I've been selected, (the day's recording starts at 4am and some facilities are open until 8pm), a pre-frozen sample is quite feasible for use that day.

I've not read of others here under such scrutiny, but thought I'd add to the information data base.

VaGent

ps I can't use synthetic urine because I had a "base-line" screen taken and they now have documented what other substances, i.e., prescription-drugs, should be in my urine. Also, I'm sure they have documented that conitine, i.e., a metabolite of nicotine, should also be there. Were I to use synthetic urine, it would be "too clean" and I know I'd get flagged for subbin. They are even using a relatively new test which can indicate ethanol ingestion for a period of about 80 hours since you drank. Ethyl glucuronide is a UNIQUE metabolite to ethanol metabolism and it remains in the urine for 80 hours. It's a non-oxidative, simply detected substance...which sucks.
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