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Old 10-25-2006, 08:56 PM   #1
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Ok...I have an idea i think will work. I have a very small vial, full of powdered synthetic urine. If I dillute my own urine with a lot of water, and pour the contents of the vial into my own dilluted urine, will i test negative? Any suggestions or help would be apreciated.
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Old 10-25-2006, 09:20 PM   #2
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Ok...I have an idea i think will work. I have a very small vial, full of powdered synthetic urine. If I dillute my own urine with a lot of water, and pour the contents of the vial into my own dilluted urine, will i test negative? Any suggestions or help would be apreciated.
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Well I wasn't sure where to post this, that's why I stuck it in a new thread, and in the N2 Dillution thread as well. I can't use quickfix because this is an observed test....i'm pretty sure I could deposit the vial un-noticed, but would it work?
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Well I wasn't sure where to post this, that's why I stuck it in a new thread, and in the N2 Dillution thread as well. I can't use quickfix because this is an observed test....i'm pretty sure I could deposit the vial un-noticed, but would it work?
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Old 10-25-2006, 09:58 PM   #5
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Well, here is my plan. I am going to super dillute myself with NOTHING but beer for about the next 2 hours. THen I'm going to go in a cup, and put in half of the vial, and try testing....am I to assume that If I test negative on a strip test I will also test negative at probation where my sample is sent to a lab? I also wondered, with N2's dillution technique, what are the tums/rolaids for? I have to take this test by friday @ 4:30, the last time I smoked was this morning about 7:00am. I also wondered how much the creatine will run me if I go buy it tonight. I'm really worried here, this is important stuff! I'm gonna just quit for good, but I need to pass this test.
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Old 10-25-2006, 11:01 PM   #6
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That isn't the greatest plan in the world. Have you used the synthetic dehydrated urine before? How quickly does it dissolve? Does it need shaking to dissolve quickly? I can see you handing a vial of urine with a lot of undissolved powder in it. Hell it might dissolve instantly. Now this is a long shot but there is an upper limit to the specific gravity range (I believe). I am sure that the synthetic urine is not right at the upper limit but if for some reason you were not as dilute as you thought and you use the powder it may make your specific gravity too high. Also, make sure you look to see how much liquid should be added to the powder and adjust accordingly. You will probably have to give a sample between 45-60 mls if it is a lab test, maybe less if it is an instant test.
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While I understand it isn't the greatest plan...it MAY be the only feasible plan at this point. I have used the synthetic urine before, mixed with lukewarm water. This was not in an observed test...the kit including a chemical agent that reacted with the water to increase it to approximately body temperature. In the past test where this urine was used, it worked like a charm. This was an unsupervised test, and easy as pie. The amount of water I used in the previous test was about 7 ounces. I have read on the synthetic product, and I'm not sure what the specific gravity of it will be, but I know it's within range, and it also includes the creatinin as well. What do you think?

It desolves fairly quickly...my current plan would be to add the synthetic powder almost as soon as i'm handed the cup when i turn my back. I would then pee into the cup, and the movement would dissolve the powder (atleast in my calculation). I will test this theory tomorrow, possibly.
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Well if it dissolves quickly then ok. 7 ounces is a lot of water and thus 7 ounces is a lot of urine to make for a test that only needs about 2 ounces. You almost have enough for 3 tests! I've never seen a powdered urine that came with something you add to heat the water. Sounds kind of cool and interesting. If you are using urine out your body it doesn't sound like you will need that though. Ok, your plan sounds a little better.
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Well, I have the product in my hand, just for your future reference, it's called "Clear Choice Sub Solution". the ad-line below the product title says "Synthetic Sample with Heat Activator. It includes a little squirt bottle with an attached temperature guage, the heating agent, and the synthetic sample. The temperature guage on the bottle is at the very top, so naturally you fill it all the way with lukewarm water....which would make for a more accurate reading on the guage. Then add the synthetic sample, and the heat activating chemical. I did some research, and wasn't sure as to what they are using as the heat activator, but I'm sure it's fairly simple...that's not a hard chemical reaction to cause...my stress is with being able to deposit the sample relaxed and naturally....and...If the ONLY thing I do is drink water ALL day, and add the sample, am I OK ya think? I figure if you're filling your body with water, your bladder is only expelling what is mostly water at body temperature....and with the synthetic sample added....viola'....but...this is an estimation for me. I'm anxious to hear what you think, and appreciate all your previous input....and..by the way, how do I add an avatar to my account?
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Cool Well....here's the deal.

Well, I have the product in my hand, just for your future reference, it's called "Clear Choice Sub Solution". the ad-line below the product title says "Synthetic Sample with Heat Activator. It includes a little squirt bottle with an attached temperature guage, the heating agent, and the synthetic sample. The temperature guage on the bottle is at the very top, so naturally you fill it all the way with lukewarm water....which would make for a more accurate reading on the guage. Then add the synthetic sample, and the heat activating chemical. I did some research, and wasn't sure as to what they are using as the heat activator, but I'm sure it's fairly simple...that's not a hard chemical reaction to cause...my stress is with being able to deposit the sample relaxed and naturally....and...If the ONLY thing I do is drink water ALL day, and add the sample, am I OK ya think? I figure if you're filling your body with water, your bladder is only expelling what is mostly water at body temperature....and with the synthetic sample added....viola'....but...this is an estimation for me. I'm anxious to hear what you think, and appreciate all your previous input....and..by the way, how do I add an avatar to my account?
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