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Old 10-25-2006, 09:56 PM   #1
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Ok...I have an idea i think will work. I have a very small vial, full of powdered synthetic urine. If I dillute my own urine with a lot of water, and pour the contents of the vial into my own dilluted urine, will i test negative? Any suggestions or help would be apreciated.
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Ok...I have an idea i think will work. I have a very small vial, full of powdered synthetic urine. If I dillute my own urine with a lot of water, and pour the contents of the vial into my own dilluted urine, will i test negative? Any suggestions or help would be apreciated.
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Well I wasn't sure where to post this, that's why I stuck it in a new thread, and in the N2 Dillution thread as well. I can't use quickfix because this is an observed test....i'm pretty sure I could deposit the vial un-noticed, but would it work?
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Well I wasn't sure where to post this, that's why I stuck it in a new thread, and in the N2 Dillution thread as well. I can't use quickfix because this is an observed test....i'm pretty sure I could deposit the vial un-noticed, but would it work?
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Well, here is my plan. I am going to super dillute myself with NOTHING but beer for about the next 2 hours. THen I'm going to go in a cup, and put in half of the vial, and try testing....am I to assume that If I test negative on a strip test I will also test negative at probation where my sample is sent to a lab? I also wondered, with N2's dillution technique, what are the tums/rolaids for? I have to take this test by friday @ 4:30, the last time I smoked was this morning about 7:00am. I also wondered how much the creatine will run me if I go buy it tonight. I'm really worried here, this is important stuff! I'm gonna just quit for good, but I need to pass this test.
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That isn't the greatest plan in the world. Have you used the synthetic dehydrated urine before? How quickly does it dissolve? Does it need shaking to dissolve quickly? I can see you handing a vial of urine with a lot of undissolved powder in it. Hell it might dissolve instantly. Now this is a long shot but there is an upper limit to the specific gravity range (I believe). I am sure that the synthetic urine is not right at the upper limit but if for some reason you were not as dilute as you thought and you use the powder it may make your specific gravity too high. Also, make sure you look to see how much liquid should be added to the powder and adjust accordingly. You will probably have to give a sample between 45-60 mls if it is a lab test, maybe less if it is an instant test.
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Well I wasn't sure where to post this, that's why I stuck it in a new thread, and in the N2 Dillution thread as well. I can't use quickfix because this is an observed test....i'm pretty sure I could deposit the vial un-noticed, but would it work?
If you can "deposit" a vial of powdered urine mixed with your real urine, why could you not "deposit" a vial of Quick Fix?

Seems pretty straight forward to me, unless you are looking for problems where they don't exist.
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Well Sec I don't think you understand my plan. What I'm going to do is deposit just the powder into the empty cup when it is handed to me. Then I'm going to urinate into the cup, but I have been drinking 44 ounce cups of water all day, so my urine is basically nothing but water, but it will be room temperature, and when that is mixed with the powder already in the cup, the Ph levels and Creatinine levels should be fine, because of the synthetic product.
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You are right, I didn't understand you the first time.

I think it will be very hard to empty powder into the cup without being seen, but maybe...

Does the powder need to be stirred? In other words, is it granular like salt or is it powdered and instantly dissolves?

It would be bad to have this residue at the bottom of the cup when you hand it to your PO.
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