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Old 12-06-2006, 03:16 PM   #1
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hello, im a male bout 6'3 200 ibs.
im a chronic smoker and i just stopped yesterday.i have ten days b4 a prob. dipstick test.they dipstick to see if they need labwork.
ive tried waterloading in the past but with the hour to hour and a half wait in the po office im thinkin it will be dirty by the time i produce my sample.
there really is no way to pass urine in that time to "water load" properly.
besides the creatine, workin out, and fat storage process, i heard that sur-jel help coats something to help keep metabolites out of your urine.
i read on here that nothing helps .no detox teas no detox drinks ,no goldenseal is there any thing that can help me.im hoping that ten days will be enough time .am i goin to be able to or do i need more advice to do something right?i really dont want to start over prob. for another year,but this time i pushed the envelope to far.any help is appriciated
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Old 12-06-2006, 04:30 PM   #2
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am i doin something wrong or is noone on?
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Old 12-06-2006, 05:18 PM   #3
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am i doin something wrong or is noone on?
No you aren't doing anything wrong. Just nobody answered you yet. It takes a while sometimes, it depends on the question.
I give you what I can. Forget the sure gel. About 4 days before your test take a home test with your first piss of the day. In the meantime read the dilution instructions carefully and be prepared to use that method if you test hot on your home test.
Give it some time and I am sure someone else will have something to say. Stop smoking now....
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Old 12-06-2006, 05:25 PM   #4
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well after readin for the last hour .ive learned some intresting things. namely im screwed.will dietary pills for three days interact with creatine or will they contradict each other.
also if i work out more aerobically to burn more fat,that should increase the metabolite to my blood stream right.how many days will it take to before the test to fat store and should i quit aerobics before the fat store.
i guess what im askin is if i eat non fat foods for 5 days with alot of excercise,then break for a 2 days to let the metabolism ballance back out.then fat store ,with following the dilution steps from n2could i pass? has any one else attempted this?one friend said i could coat my insides with sure gel and another said drink a bleach water.i havent ever used these methods and wouldnt want to attempt w/out talkin to some one who has or knows the process. thanks and please reply.
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Old 12-06-2006, 05:28 PM   #5
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am i doin something wrong or is noone on?
Wow dude chill. I know sometimes people get responses quick but it is a weekday morning. You gotta wait till some of us get a break or get off work. 2 hours is not a long time. Patience is a virtue.

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hello, im a male bout 6'3 200 ibs.
im a chronic smoker and i just stopped yesterday.i have ten days b4 a prob. dipstick test.they dipstick to see if they need labwork.
ive tried waterloading in the past but with the hour to hour and a half wait in the po office im thinkin it will be dirty by the time i produce my sample.
there really is no way to pass urine in that time to "water load" properly.
Let me stop you there and change it from waterloading to dilution, the term is more accurate.
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besides the creatine, workin out, and fat storage process, i heard that sur-jel help coats something to help keep metabolites out of your urine.
Here we go with the sure jel/ pectin theory. Many people swear by this but most of these people also drink a lot of gatorade with it, which is the dilution method. I have always thought and seen information that pectin was a mild diuretic. What amazes me though is how little people know about the human body that they would think sure jel or pectin coates your insides. You are not the first to state this as a lot of people believe this but think about it for a minute. Even if it did coat your stomach or intestines how is that going to affect your kidneys? It isn't. Your body stores THC metabolites in fat tissue and other body tissue. As your body eliminates these metabolites they enter the bloodstream, the kidneys filter these metabolites, then deposit them into the urine. Your kidneys do not filter your stomach contents, drinking sure jel does not coat your kidneys or stomach, and if it did by some weird suspension of the laws of science why would anybody think the THC metabolites are stored in your stomach and coating the stomach stops them from ending up in the urine? If someone thinks the sure jel coats the kidneys how would that be possible? It would have to be aborbed from the small intestine unmetabolized, travel through your blood unmetabolized, not attach to any other body tissue, then hit the kidneys unmetabolized and coat them. This coating theory always comes up and I have to laugh. Again, most people who pass using sure jel pass because they drink a lot with it and it probably has a mild diuretic effect.

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i read on here that nothing helps .no detox teas no detox drinks ,no goldenseal is there any thing that can help me.im hoping that ten days will be enough time .am i goin to be able to or do i need more advice to do something right?i really dont want to start over prob. for another year,but this time i pushed the envelope to far.any help is appriciated
The main goal of dilution is to increase water content in the urine so that the concentration of THC metabolites drop below 50 ng/ml. It is helpful to void as many times as possible before the test that way the urine in the bladder has only been there a short time and that it has had very little time for the body to deposit THC metabolites in it. If you can't clear your bladder before the test, you are still in better shape than giving concentrated urine to your po. Most PO's are hip to dilution so if you go to the bathroom 4 times in the waiting room, they may piece it together so good luck with holding your bladder.

Exercise (aerobic for at least 20 minutes but the longer the better)your ass off for the next 6 days then get lazy for the last 4 days. Eat very lean and healthy during the first 6 days then eat high fat foods the last 4 days. Take about 12-15 grams of soluble fiber, preferrably Metamucil, each day. This will help eliminate THC from your body a little. All other methods are unproven including the teas and goldenseals.

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Old 12-06-2006, 05:33 PM   #6
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well after readin for the last hour .ive learned some intresting things. namely im screwed.will dietary pills for three days interact with creatine or will they contradict each other.
also if i work out more aerobically to burn more fat,that should increase the metabolite to my blood stream right.how many days will it take to before the test to fat store and should i quit aerobics before the fat store.
i guess what im askin is if i eat non fat foods for 5 days with alot of excercise,then break for a 2 days to let the metabolism ballance back out.then fat store ,with following the dilution steps from n2could i pass? has any one else attempted this?one friend said i could coat my insides with sure gel and another said drink a bleach water.i havent ever used these methods and wouldnt want to attempt w/out talkin to some one who has or knows the process. thanks and please reply.
If you stay clean for the next 10 days you may be able to pass. I don't know about diet pills. Stop working out 4-5 days before the test and go into couch potato mode. Tell your friends they are nuts and let them drink bleach and sure gel.
Follow the dilution instructions carefully. Print them out if you have to. It is important to follow them carefully, and I personally wouldn't mix anything into it that isn't there. It has been proven to be most effective the way it is written. Not by adding or subtracting from the recipe.

Good luck
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There ya go......boobs is on and knows his shit and being a brown noser has nothing to do with it.
Listen to him and you will increase you chances.
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Old 12-06-2006, 06:22 PM   #8
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i tried to reply w/ quotes but i need more practice.below was some of the remarksand questions thanks.
this section really reassured me i was on the right track.
yea i know i really hate that i dont get this monkey off my back....6 more months and it could be gone ....small price to pay to quit for 6 months and get my head right
hopefully he want test me till after the new year...i really do need to sell myself on abstenance.
your right.
Is there any were i can find out what happens to the gel when digested?i know im not a doctor, just a reference point you might be able to think of? if it dont "coat" the system.the excercise tip from you both were great and even the info of knowin you need to piss 4 times in an hour sounds familiar helps.4 to 5 daze was also helpful cause i was thinkin more like1,2,or even 3tops
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This is a really good idea in your case. Good luck and happy holidays.
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Old 12-06-2006, 07:27 PM   #10
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thanks and hapy holidaze to you too and thanks agian fir the support.to all have a great rest of the year and a good new one!
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