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icemann

Have a test on wed, need sound advice....

6'0", 235lbs, not in shape, smoke daily (multiple x), smoke only high quality, smoked for years with only a few days breaks here and there....

Was planning on going with dilution, have some Detoxify XXClean... Tried a bottle of XXClean on Sat (48 hours since last puff), waited 2 hours after drinking it and failed 3 times in a row with at-home tests!!! So now my paranoia is off the charts... My boy keeps pushing substitution but I'm not a clandestine operative by any means... if these people are trained well, I'll probably seem suspicious to them...

questions... is dilution worth a shot at all given my stats? how certain is everyone that a drug screening for pre-employment is not going to be observed? how hard is it get the temperature right? I'd love to hear your successes and failures... I'm going nutz right now (probably withdrawl as well)

keep the faith!!

 

1tokeovertheline

I know you are nervous but you are going to be hard pressed to get better advice than what nerph gave you in one of your other threads.

icemann

I don't discount anything on here, I understand there are quite a few variables in play. But he suggested I would pass after one or two days and I didn't...

time to start practicing pee smuggling... i just hope I don't end up in the paper as the guy who failed his test because his smuggled pee ended up on his pants instead of in the cup...

Plus this temperature thing has me mega-paranoid...

g0d-damn our fascist culture that allows these impositions of civil liberties to be acceptable...

1tokeovertheline

You used a detox drink, at least that is what you said, not the dilution method from the sticky on this forum. Some detox drinks don't work.

Sec

Ok, ok, first off, relax. There will be no announcement in the paper or anywhere else if you fail a pre-employment drug test. These tests are confidential. The only ones supposed to know are the lab personnel (who don't know you from Adam), the MRO, (who doesn't know you any better than the lab personnel) and the Designated Employer Representative (HR person who sees you as just a name on an application).

We do not report to the police, friends, family, neighbors or anywhere else what the results of a drug test are. We are strictly regulated on who we can and cannot report to.

Next, put a bottle of pee in your underwear with a handwarmer taped to the side of it or just get it up to temp and wear two pair of underwear with the specimen between the two. Empty your pockets like the collector asks, walk in, pee in the toilet, pour the specimen in the cup and you are there. done.

Not difficult, not stressful. Just do it.

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icemann

I skipped the extra underwear, and taped the bottle (purel, 2oz cleaned with tap water, then alcohol 91%, then left to evaporate over night) to me mansack. Walked in, did the exact same thing you described, walked out. You're right, this isn't bank security... just worried about an overly diligent MRO digging into results...

my only concern is gender, i used a womens pee. I just posted another thread under UA for that question, then I'm done. And if this works, i'm selling t-shirts that say, "Just Sub"

thanks guys, this is the only place I can find peace mind during this crap...

1tokeovertheline

Seems to be a lot of gender worry this morning. They don't check gender for a piss test. You are worrying to much.

amen852infinity

if the female that subs for u is pregnant, does that matter?

Sec

No. It doesn't matter unless you are taking a pregnancy test.

lew scannon

.......And pregnancy tests are not within the scope of drug testing. Labs cannot conduct such tests unless authorization is granted by the donor.