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Dr Strangelove · 03-27-2007, 07:53 PM

Somnium, I'm about 10 days behind you (25 days clean). I have clear faint lines. Did you try dilution yet? That definitely gives me a darker line.

Darius927 · 03-27-2007, 08:02 PM

Hmmmm that sounds weird to me, that you didn't pass at the screen at 20ng/ml. What kind of test is this and at what lab? And when you say ghost line, that means almost no color in it, as in greyish?

jpbc99 · 03-27-2007, 08:56 PM

Question, why would you accept an agreement like that? Did you get busted drunk driving [just asking, no beef]???

Second, did you state in court that you will currently have failing results to start?

I would call your probation officer and go over the expectations of the results for your UAs'. I would tell him you are no longer smoking, and that the last time was feb 22, just like it was.

Then it is up to him. Depending on the state, he does not have to "supererogate" you to the judge [I been on prob before] for failing results.

Also, becarefull. [my god get a new spellcheck program marijuana.com].
Your probation officer MAY NOT inform you of failing results. In fact, he/she may let you concurrantly fail upwards of five times in a row before telling you.

By telling you, I mean getting the letter in the mail that you have to go before a judge again and may have all your previous charges re-instated [if you got CWOF].

If it is a judge you are talking to and not a PO, really really spell out your situation and clearly state your fullest intention of complying with every requirement he gives you. He is there because of whit and knowledge beyond most of our dreams.

He is wise enough to know that you will still have some THC in you.

Now, on the other hand if you were prosecuted say last summer and have been on probation for the whole time, and now this has come up...SHAME ON YOU!!!

I have no sympathy really, well I do, but it is your freedom you are risking. When I was on probation I fucked up once, I missed like two counsling meetings in a row. I am a sucker for the ladies, and had to give a chick a ride home and could not disclose my rush.

I missed the appt by 15 minutes, even showed up. The head lady was like...well you have to go before the judge. Because I was a good probationeer with a 6 mo flawless track record he declined the recommendation of the councler. He said, you have one chance to honor that meeting on this date, if you miss that one your going before the judge.

Under no circumstances after that did I mess around, I went over a year without smoking. I went to every drug test. Completed all communtiy service.

By the time my last two months were left for probation I had gone out to college, the new po took me out of the DT pool!!! He said just be cool and "don't do nothing stupid out there until oct 22, 2000" and laughed. I remember it like it was yestarday.

I was freeeeeeee.

I also never had to worry about the drug tests, and never cheated. Always went and gave a legit clean sample.

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Originally Posted by Somnium

Hey all, first off I must say this is the best, hands down, website for people trying to pass their tests and I have nothing but much love and respect for all the admins, mods, and posters who spend their collective time sharing their experience and knowledge. You all deserve medals or something, I've learned so much lurking for about just a week.

Now, my questions are thusly. I'm going to have to take a UA at court on March 28th as part of a plea bargin arranged by my lawyer for underage possession of alcohol (I'm 20 btw) and pot(under an oz.). Hooray. >.< I've been totally freaked out that I'm not going to be clean for this test because of my stats and I wanted to try and see what the gurus here have to say, because my friends are all less than useless about this stuff.

I'm 5'10'', 20 years old, and weigh around 200~230 I think, no scale to check on, pounds, I think my metabolism is either slow or average but it has been increasing these past two years as I've lost a lot of weight in that time frame but that might also be the cigarettes I started on around the same time, and now my weight has stabilized again where its at now, I don't gain weight no matter how bad I eat, which is pretty badly. I was an everyday smoker for about two years or so, give or take a couple months. I smoked different amounts each day, of different qualities ranging from browny mids to lemon fresh headies. Like I said my test is on March 28th, and the last time I smoked anything was the morning of Feb. 14th, no break downs or weakness smokes at all, and will be able to continue this until the court date and probably beyond if required. I tested myself yesterday and failed (this is at 22 days clean), but I have been sick with a stomach virus and have been extremely dehydrated due to not really being able to hold water in my system (everything I've been drinking has been either Gatoraide or soda). I'm thinking that I might have wasted my money testing while not even normally hydrated, much less dilution prepared but I was going to lose my mind if I didn't check myself out at least.

I've read everything posted about dilution and subbing and I'm wondering several things. One, what do you all think about my chances of being able to pass the test without adulterating at all? Two, how long does dilution last/what kind of test do you think they'll do on me at the court house as it relates to my chances of being able to sub? I will be 42 days (6 weeks) and several hours clean when I'm going to have to test for court, and I just don't know if that will be enough. I'm thinking about trying to dilute myself somewhat but it will be several hours after my last opportunity to drink water or take any pills before the test. I'm probably going to be up at 4 AM that morning so I know I'll have a lot of time to prepare dilution, but again I'm going to have to go in dry, and I can't really leave the court room to void excess fluid either. Is it pointless to try and dilute myself when I'm probably going to have to wait so long to give my sample? I figure it couldn't hurt to prepare correctly, void a lot in the morning time period and hope the pee I go in with is watered down enough but that might be flawed logic thus why I'm posting. And on the flip side of that does anyone know if they'd watch me give my sample at the courthouse itself? I'd love to just sub it out and avoid the whole fiasco entirely, but it is a courthouse and the results of my test will affect what happens to me so I doubt I'd be able to do that (but at the same time maybe they'd be lax about it due to security there...).

I know this probably sounds like paranoid ranting but its been on my mind all week and I can't afford to let this screw me over, cause I was letting my habit get the best of me in too many ways and now I'm trying to straighten my life out and get responsible about my actions, and now its all hinging on this.

Thanks for taking the time to read my plight and again thank you to everyone who shares their wealth of information, I'll check back soon.

So so

EDIT: To add my age to my stats.

Somnium · 03-28-2007, 03:54 AM

dude, I don't think you read my post right at all. O.o;;; I haven't even been to court yet for a sentencing or anything, that's tomorrow. My lawyer is trying to get my charges filed away in the black box for a year and then they'll go away, leaving me with ideally non-reporting probation for a year or something. All the things I'm doing are to show that I'm responsible and sorry for the mistakes that I made so they'll WANT to forgive me. *cough cough*

Darius, calm the hell down. Like I said I ghosted on a 15 ng/ml test, cause I had 20ng/ml, so I was just barely above the cutoff, hence my ghost line.

Strangelove, I'm a fairly big guy so I'm not suprised its taking me longer than you, but like I said, my quantitative results say I had 20ngml a week ago, you can't argue with those numbers. I'm going to be hydrating tomorrow morning but I think that I'll be able to pass anything they throw at me dip wise no matter what, even if it is a 15 cutoff level, cause I've metabolized out so much over this time frame that a week is probably more than enough to drop from 20 to 15.

Dr Strangelove · 03-28-2007, 04:09 AM

Just curious...where did you get quantitative results from? And how much money did that cost? thanks in advance.

AuNatural · 03-28-2007, 04:26 AM

Eek, I hope my test isn't a 15!

I don't think it will be though, but Dear God, do I hope.

Best of luck to you tomorrow, I'll be rootin' for ya while I take my own test.

Darius927 · 03-28-2007, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Somnium

Darius, calm the hell down. Like I said I ghosted on a 15 ng/ml test, cause I had 20ng/ml, so I was just barely above the cutoff, hence my ghost line.

I missed the line where you said the cutoff was 15 ng/ml. Calm the hell down? What did I do?

jpbc99 · 03-28-2007, 01:22 PM

your sleeze attorny is misleading you. What he wants to get you is called a "continuance with out a finding". Dude if you were caught with pot and booze without a major traffic violation for the first time, you shouldn't have to admit guilt. Even if you live in georga, you should get that tossed out. Not continud without a finding. All that does is put you on eggshells. You said sentencing...have you had an arraignment and pretrial hearing?

If you get screwed I would tell your PO that your THC levels will be barely failing, but failing nonetheless at first. He will give you that extra time you need.

I think your getting cwof. For such a light crime it is a little excessive. Sure your attorny isn't playing golf with the DA on weekends? jk

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Originally Posted by Somnium

dude, I don't think you read my post right at all. O.o;;; I haven't even been to court yet for a sentencing or anything, that's tomorrow. My lawyer is trying to get my charges filed away in the black box for a year and then they'll go away, leaving me with ideally non-reporting probation for a year or something. All the things I'm doing are to show that I'm responsible and sorry for the mistakes that I made so they'll WANT to forgive me. *cough cough*

Darius, calm the hell down. Like I said I ghosted on a 15 ng/ml test, cause I had 20ng/ml, so I was just barely above the cutoff, hence my ghost line.

Strangelove, I'm a fairly big guy so I'm not suprised its taking me longer than you, but like I said, my quantitative results say I had 20ngml a week ago, you can't argue with those numbers. I'm going to be hydrating tomorrow morning but I think that I'll be able to pass anything they throw at me dip wise no matter what, even if it is a 15 cutoff level, cause I've metabolized out so much over this time frame that a week is probably more than enough to drop from 20 to 15.

Somnium · 03-28-2007, 06:06 PM

I don't think you understand the legal system jpbc, either that or my wording is very poor and leading you to think I'm in a different position. Things like that don't just go away when the hit court unless you're extremely lucky, at least where I live. In any case I didn't admit guilt, I'm taking a probation sentence and after thats up its going to go down as an official not guilty finding, end of story.

Darius, I just ment calm down cause I knew you'd be freaked out at thinking you might have to take a 15 cutoff test cause I know you're like that. =p

And I got my quantitative results from a Quest lab branch, they sent my sample in to the big testing center and ran a GC/MS on it to see what my levels were. You can do it at any center I'm sure, just ask them to send it in for results. It didn't cost anything extra when I did it, I just paid the 49 up front and got my GCMS for free, technically.

So yeah, here's the kicker. I didn't have to piss today at court. *falls over and dies* WOW.

jpbc99 · 03-28-2007, 06:14 PM

What state do you live in. If you are taking probation, ask if it is a continuance without a finding. If your getting probation, im sorry to say that it won't just disappear. Dude, i been dragged through the court for a few times. I know my shit. What happened today anyway. If you think you can beat the case on a technicality and have the charges "dropped" then go for it. Cause after that its not a conviction, and the charges are dismissed, but you do have a criminal record. It won't go away, calla private research company and ask for your back ground check, it will usually show for 7 years.

That is just what I have found to be true. I am telling you this because I regret not challenging one of my arrests. I took probation and it was dissmissed at end. It is apart of my permanent record. Any cop can see two AOs , short for adult arraignments, which you had one today. Just trying to help a brother out, not fight. Peace.

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Originally Posted by Somnium

I don't think you understand the legal system jpbc, either that or my wording is very poor and leading you to think I'm in a different position. Things like that don't just go away when the hit court unless you're extremely lucky, at least where I live. In any case I didn't admit guilt, I'm taking a probation sentence and after thats up its going to go down as an official not guilty finding, end of story.

Darius, I just ment calm down cause I knew you'd be freaked out at thinking you might have to take a 15 cutoff test cause I know you're like that. =p

And I got my quantitative results from a Quest lab branch, they sent my sample in to the big testing center and ran a GC/MS on it to see what my levels were. You can do it at any center I'm sure, just ask them to send it in for results. It didn't cost anything extra when I did it, I just paid the 49 up front and got my GCMS for free, technically.

So yeah, here's the kicker. I didn't have to piss today at court. *falls over and dies* WOW.

03-28-2007, 03:54 AM	#14
Somnium New Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 97 Grams: 764.80 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	dude, I don't think you read my post right at all. O.o;;; I haven't even been to court yet for a sentencing or anything, that's tomorrow. My lawyer is trying to get my charges filed away in the black box for a year and then they'll go away, leaving me with ideally non-reporting probation for a year or something. All the things I'm doing are to show that I'm responsible and sorry for the mistakes that I made so they'll WANT to forgive me. cough cough Darius, calm the hell down. Like I said I ghosted on a 15 ng/ml test, cause I had 20ng/ml, so I was just barely above the cutoff, hence my ghost line. Strangelove, I'm a fairly big guy so I'm not suprised its taking me longer than you, but like I said, my quantitative results say I had 20ngml a week ago, you can't argue with those numbers. I'm going to be hydrating tomorrow morning but I think that I'll be able to pass anything they throw at me dip wise no matter what, even if it is a 15 cutoff level, cause I've metabolized out so much over this time frame that a week is probably more than enough to drop from 20 to 15. __________________ If you know you have to take a drug test at any point in the future quit smoking! Read the stickies and never start up again until you're completely in the clear, you never know if you might have to retest due to an error. If in doubt, ask yourself this question: What's more important, getting out of the mess you're in or getting high?

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Dr Strangelove New Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 88 Grams: 765.25 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Somnium, I'm about 10 days behind you (25 days clean). I have clear faint lines. Did you try dilution yet? That definitely gives me a darker line.

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Darius927 Jr. Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 205 Grams: 962.55 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Hmmmm that sounds weird to me, that you didn't pass at the screen at 20ng/ml. What kind of test is this and at what lab? And when you say ghost line, that means almost no color in it, as in greyish?

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Dr Strangelove New Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 88 Grams: 765.25 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Just curious...where did you get quantitative results from? And how much money did that cost? thanks in advance.

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AuNatural New Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 10 Grams: 765.05 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Eek, I hope my test isn't a 15! I don't think it will be though, but Dear God, do I hope. Best of luck to you tomorrow, I'll be rootin' for ya while I take my own test.

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Somnium New Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 97 Grams: 764.80 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	I don't think you understand the legal system jpbc, either that or my wording is very poor and leading you to think I'm in a different position. Things like that don't just go away when the hit court unless you're extremely lucky, at least where I live. In any case I didn't admit guilt, I'm taking a probation sentence and after thats up its going to go down as an official not guilty finding, end of story. Darius, I just ment calm down cause I knew you'd be freaked out at thinking you might have to take a 15 cutoff test cause I know you're like that. =p And I got my quantitative results from a Quest lab branch, they sent my sample in to the big testing center and ran a GC/MS on it to see what my levels were. You can do it at any center I'm sure, just ask them to send it in for results. It didn't cost anything extra when I did it, I just paid the 49 up front and got my GCMS for free, technically. So yeah, here's the kicker. I didn't have to piss today at court. falls over and dies WOW.

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